Re: Another Overclocked Mac
J. S. Garrison writes: Since overclocking the Quadra 700 I own, I went on to try it with a Classic, and a 128 having a Mac Plus motherboard. The Classic hated it. Last night, the 128 begrudgingly allowed it. Once you replace the motherboard, it is no longer a 128. Your little old Mac is now a Mac Plus no matter what the case may say. The board-speed is at 10Mhz. instead of 8. You're asking for trouble, because almost everything on the motherboard is tied to the speed of the crystal: the CPU, video, SCSI, the floppy, etc. I'm surprised your seeing anything on the screen The same goes for the SE and Classic. None of these models can be effectively overclocked. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Dr. Seuss -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
At 12:10 -0500 on 25/11/02, Dan Knight wrote: You're asking for trouble, because almost everything on the motherboard is tied to the speed of the crystal: the CPU, video, SCSI, the floppy, etc. I'm surprised your seeing anything on the screen Actually, come to think of it, try something like Clockometer on there and see if it's actually seeing 10MHz as the CPU speed. That clear video that you claim is absolutely not making any sense. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
Dan Knight wrote: J. S. Garrison writes: Since overclocking the Quadra 700 I own, I went on to try it with a Classic, and a 128 having a Mac Plus motherboard. The Classic hated it. Last night, the 128 begrudgingly allowed it. Once you replace the motherboard, it is no longer a 128. Your little old Mac is now a Mac Plus no matter what the case may say. Well, it came to me as a 128 with no motherboard and no floppy drive. The extra Mac Plus motherboard made it come to life for the trial. The board-speed is at 10Mhz. instead of 8. You're asking for trouble, because almost everything on the motherboard is tied to the speed of the crystal: the CPU, video, SCSI, the floppy, etc. I'm surprised your seeing anything on the screen It really was just a fun experiment. That I got it to work at all was a delight. The screen was narrower than normal and I adjusted it to appear normal. As mentioned, I couldn't use the floppy drive and the only access was through an external hard drive. It isn't something I'd keep that way. In fact it's already been dismantled and put away. But, I wanted to do it, to pioneer the possibilities with Macs from MY perspective. The same goes for the SE and Classic. None of these models can be effectively overclocked. I put a 33Mhz., (15Mhz. effective), oscillator in the Classic and it gave me the sign it hated it. Thin squiggly video, and no way to see the goings on. As far as it being OK with a 20 Mhz. one, (10Mhz. effective), I would probaby have the same results as with the 128 / Plus. But, it's just a trial. I have a burning curiosity about what these machines will and won't do. And I love doing it. Jeff -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
the pickle wrote: At 12:10 -0500 on 25/11/02, Dan Knight wrote: You're asking for trouble, because almost everything on the motherboard is tied to the speed of the crystal: the CPU, video, SCSI, the floppy, etc. I'm surprised your seeing anything on the screen Actually, come to think of it, try something like Clockometer on there and see if it's actually seeing 10MHz as the CPU speed. That clear video that you claim is absolutely not making any sense. -- the pickle Understand I had to widen the video. It was viewable but strafed with light interference. Jeff -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
At 08:57 -0800 on 23/11/02, J. S. Garrison wrote: The floppy drive won't boot or copy-to. When running an external hard drive it WILL copy some of its contents to the hard drive, but verification isn't wotking. Several known-working drives were tried. And the video is f*cked, too - the refresh rate gets all weird when you do that. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
the pickle wrote: At 08:57 -0800 on 23/11/02, J. S. Garrison wrote: The floppy drive won't boot or copy-to. When running an external hard drive it WILL copy some of its contents to the hard drive, but verification isn't wotking. Several known-working drives were tried. And the video is f*cked, too - the refresh rate gets all weird when you do that. -- the pickle Actually, NOT. There was a very slight rectangular ghosting, dancing, but the video remains extremely clear and legible. J -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
