Re: IIci
Sounds a bit like your boot directory got crazed. If you can get ahold of Diskwarrior, it will fix the drive. I once had this occur on my old Centris 650. Used an older version of AOL Instant Messenger that crashed and took out the boot directory on the hard drive. Wound up nuking and repaving the drive. Happened a second time. That time, I dropped the drive into an old IIci that I had lying around. That machine booted up. Put the drive back into the 650, and it worked just fine thereafter. -J OK, this may be off topic but other than the PCI list its the only Mac list I am on that got any traffic Why would my IIci, when I fire it up show the Happy Mac then go to the dickette with the ? on it? Steve ++ John Laughlin Photography; Nature Photography ++ + Duvall, WA 98019-0778|'82 242Ti B23FT M46 500K km - 311K mi + + MSN Messenger:Kilted_John |'83 245Ti B21FT M46 459K km - 285K mi + + ICQ# 5584031 AIM: IIci MAN |'87 744Ti B23FT AW71 208K mi - 334K km+ + http://home.blarg.net/~volvo242gt/index.html -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: IIci or IIsi - Is there a Converter ?
On 28 Aug 2004, at 20:00, Geraint Searle - Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to connect an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor with See Through Casing - 17 (16-inch viewable) Natural Flat Diamondtron CRT display with built in colorsync to maintain true colours, max resolution 1600x1200 and has a system power on button and 2 USB ports to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi with an Adpator Converter (Is there such one ?). Whilst it may not work with the built-in video on the IIci or IIsi, the monitor should work with a decent 24bit NuBus video card plus an adapter to covert the 15 pin Apple D-connector to VGA. With the NuBus card, your Mac should also run more quickly. Phil --- http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci ROM SIMM in SE/30
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:36:49 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Walthers and I have been working on making IIci ROM SIMMS from scratch. The first prototype is built and working in one of my SE/30's. Jeff did the hard part and I supplied the dumb labor (Which I'm good at. :-) Yeah, whipping up a printed circuit board design at home, etching the board, grinding it down because the needed SIMM is an odd thickness and getting the components all on there by hand was the dumb part. :-) Gamba did most of the work and very impressive it was. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
This seems to make it much more difficult to adapt the IIci ROMs to the SE/30. Jeff Walther I have seen 3 variations of the SE/30 rom simms. On two of the three I was able to identify the base part number of the chips: 1..Apple part numbers HN62321 series.. base ROM part number HN6231, which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. 2..Apple part numbers 342S0651 series.. base ROM part number 27C512, which is (64K X 8). The package is PLCC-32 3..Apple part numbers 342S0639 series.. base ROM part number (unknown), which is (unknown). The package is PLCC-44 My IIsi ROM simm has Apple part number 341S0820 series, which are base ROM part number N27C010-120V10 which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. All the above info is at file://localhost/HD1030/--www_earthlink/os8_se30.html#simm Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), you could copy the code from them, into new ROM chips (1..) above. But of course you would need that particular SE/30 ROM simm. If I have an extra and if above makes sense, you can have it. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Correctiion: Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: All the above info is at file://localhost/HD1030/--www_earthlink/os8_se30.html#simm Well now, that was kinda stupid wasn't it? It's actually http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/os8_se30.html#simm Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: My IIsi ROM simm has Apple part number 341S0820 series, which are base ROM part number N27C010-120V10 which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. Correction, the package on these is PLCC-32, not SOIC-32 Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), And I just checked, they are (128K X 8). So, because the 27C010 is EPROM instead of Mask ROM, seems like you could just copy the code from the IIci chips into new 27C010s and put those 27C010s into the appropiate SE/30 ROM simm. A handy URL that I ran across is http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I saw this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4610item=2087361728 on Ebay. Anyone else have one of these in their SE/30? Does yours have one or two chips installed? Jeff Walther Mine has only one chip installed and it works with all the various accelerator configurations at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html,, so I don't think that the missing chip on yours is going to be problem. FWIW here's a schematic of the DayStar IIsi PDS adapter: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/iisi_adapter_prelim.PDF DayStar used a bunch of chip resistors, as jumpers, to program the card for various configurations Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:19:39 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to make it much more difficult to adapt the IIci ROMs to the SE/30. Jeff Walther I have seen 3 variations of the SE/30 rom simms. On two of the three I was able to identify the base part number of the chips: 1..Apple part numbers HN62321 series.. base ROM part number HN6231, which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. Correction, the package on these is PLCC-32, not SOIC-32 Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), you could copy the code from them, into new ROM chips (1..) above. Yes, the IIci ROMs are 128K X 8 in a DIP package. Most any PLCC-32 128K X 8 chip should work. All the ones I've seen have the same pinout with the variation being only in WE and VPP or the analogous pins. Since the device will be used for read-only once it is on the SE/30 ROM module, the placement of above pins shouldn't matter as long as they aren't tied active. I have a bunch of Atmel AT49F010 on hand, which is what I plan to use. I guess the only thing that could trip this up, is if there is some significant variation in timing or wave-form from the older OTP EPROMs. But of course you would need that particular SE/30 ROM simm. If I have an extra and if above makes sense, you can have it. That is a very kind offer. Number 1 above is the one that would make this project work if you have one available. I would be happy to send you this SE/30 ROM module in exchange. Shall I contact you off list? Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), And I just checked, they are (128K X 8). So, because the 27C010 is EPROM instead of Mask ROM, seems like you could just copy the code from the IIci chips into new 27C010s and put those 27C010s into the appropiate SE/30 ROM simm. Apple appears to have used One Time Programmable EPROMs for a fair number of these modules. But any non-volatile storage device of the correct capacity and pinout will probably work. The pinouts of Mask ROMs, EPROMs, EEPROMs and Flash of the same capacity, organization and package type tend to be the same regardless of the underlying technology. So, for example, while the mask ROMs in Apple's 7200,. x500 and x600 machines might be a Macronix MX23C8100 or equivalent Sharp or Samsung KM23C8100 ROM, one can substitute an Atmel AT49F8192-90RC or Hyundai HY29F800BG Flash memory if it is programmed with the appropriate code. A handy URL that I ran across is http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt That's very cool. I don't have any arcade games, but I'm glad someone is keeping those old things going. I really liked some of the old ones. Gamba, thanks again for the information. Please let me know about the ROM module. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:57:25 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4610item=2087361728 on Ebay. Anyone else have one of these in their SE/30? Does yours have one or two chips installed? Jeff Walther Mine has only one chip installed and it works with all the various accelerator configurations at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html,, so I don't think that the missing chip on yours is going to be problem. Thank you. That is reassuring. FWIW here's a schematic of the DayStar IIsi PDS adapter: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/iisi_adapter_prelim.PDF DayStar used a bunch of chip resistors, as jumpers, to program the card for various configurations Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? He's running a three or four person company supporting and repairing some of the old Daystar and XLR8 products. He worked for both companies at various points. He might have access to some of the old Daystar documentation. It's hard to imagine what harm there could be in releasing a lot of that information at this point. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Jeff Walther wrote: Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? We hereby appoint you! :-) Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I have a bunch of Atmel AT49F010 on hand, which is what I plan to use. The one of three types of SE/30 ROM simms that has identifable 128X8 ROMS are Mask ROMs in an SOIC-32 package. Do you have 128X8 EPROMS in that package? I guess the only thing that could trip this up, is if there is some significant variation in timing or wave-form from the older OTP EPROMs. Seems to me that if they are equal or faster access times they should work in a 16 MHz circuit, even if (perish the thought!) Apple is using both edges of the clock. Number 1 above is the one that would make this project work if you have one available. I just looked, and I have an extra. I'll see you off-list. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
At 18:24 -0600 on 13/01/03, Jeff Walther wrote: Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? He's running a three or four person company supporting and repairing some of the old Daystar and XLR8 products. He worked for both companies AFAIK he isn't working in that capacity any more, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have information :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
