Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-05 Thread Hideki Kato
Darren Cook: <4b1af9bd.3020...@dcook.org>: >> Rank NameAuthor Score* >> ... >> 11 Katsunari Shinich Sei 2 >> >> Katsunari used alpha-beta search and the others used MCTS. > >Katsunari came second at the UEC cup, but last at GPW Cup.

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
Thanks. I tried giving both fuego and MFGO 16K playouts and stopped at with MFGO winning 123/135 = 91% +- 4%. I'm starting again with your suggestions: uct_param_player ignore_clock 1 uct_param_player max_games 16000 uct_param_search number_threads 1 uct_param_player ponder 0 go_param_rules ko_r

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:05:27AM +0900, Darren Cook wrote: > > I expected to win 50 to 60% of the games, but won 88% of 1300 games. There > > were several games that Fuego lost due to a superko violation. > > > > Am I missing a parameter to set the rules to Chinese with superko? > > go_rules c

Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-05 Thread Darren Cook
> Rank NameAuthor Score* > ... > 11Katsunari Shinich Sei 2 > > Katsunari used alpha-beta search and the others used MCTS. Katsunari came second at the UEC cup, but last at GPW Cup. I know there was some grumbling over the seeding

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Darren Cook
> uct_param_player ignore_clock 1 > uct_param_player max_games 8000 > uct_param_search number_threads 1 > uct_command_player ponder 0 I learnt the other day that ignore_clock only ignores the game time settings, but there is still a default 10 seconds per move. To get rid of that add: go_param t

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
Good suggestion. I was getting a little worried about overtuning against Gnugo, since it's the only program I've ever tested against. David > -Original Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Petr Baudis > Sent: Sa

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
I'm not testing Fuego against MFGO. I'm using Fuego as part of the MFGO regression tests in place of Gnugo. My test machines are all Windows, as are all of my test scripts. So I don't need the strongest Fuego. I just want a fast, strong program that is better than gnugo. David From: com

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:41:49PM +0100, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > There's no reason why something like a go engine should care what the > underlying OS is. Not until it gets multi-threaded, AFAIK pthread emulation by cygwin is far from optimal because threading model in Win32 is very differen

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Ben Lambrechts wrote: > If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to run Fuego > on a strong Linux-machine. > The Cygwin-version is significantly slower than the full-build I have on > the same machine with Fedora. Isn't that just a matter of using a cygwin version with the same

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Ben Shoemaker
Has anyone tried running Fuego on linux via VM on Windows? Is it faster than cygwin-Fuego on Windows? (I don't know how much VM performance varies but http://www.virtualbox.org/ is freely available for testing.) With a newer version of Windows and a multi-core machine it might not a bad optio

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:54:39PM -0800, David Fotland wrote: > Many Faces is getting too strong for Gnugo. I test using 8K playouts per > move on 19x19 and win about 89% of the games. Is there a specific reason for insisting on even games? I still sometimes do tests on 9x9 (e.g. some slight re-

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Ben Lambrechts
If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to run Fuego on a strong Linux-machine. The Cygwin-version is significantly slower than the full-build I have on the same machine with Fedora. I provide the Cygwin for people who are not familiar enough with linux or are not able to build