Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament: 13x13

Reminder - it's tomorrow. On 26 March 2016 at 13:51, Nick Wedd wrote: > The April KGS slow bot tournament will start on Sunday,April 10th, at 08:00 > UTC and end by 14:40 UTC. It will use 13x13 boards, with time limits of > 19 minutes each plus very fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7.5. See

[Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament: 13x13

The April KGS slow bot tournament will start on Sunday,April 10th, at 08:00 UTC and end by 14:40 UTC. It will use 13x13 boards, with time limits of 19 minutes each plus very fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7.5. See http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=1021 Please register by emailing me, wi

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Because 13x13 is the one that is working, so folks are playing at that board size. I do not think it matters much that the rating come from the same board size as the tournament. The point is just to get programs that have crossed to some minimal level of maturity, and some of the programs that

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

In view of the responses I have received, I have opened up entry to weaker players. I like David's idea of a requirement of some specified CGOS rating. I'll say 1100 for now, and see how it works out. When I look at CGOS, it gives me lists of ratings for 9x9 and 13x13 (which covers the April tou

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

McMahon relies on the players having reliable ratings. Many don't. Nick On 1 April 2015 at 14:30, Erik van der Werf wrote: > Perhaps switch to McMahon? > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Darren Cook wrote: > >> > I will be willing to welcome players of all strengths, if that is what >> the >

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

that I would welcome programs of any strength in the tournaments. The more >> the merrier. >> >> Rémi >> >> - Mail original ----- >> De: "folkert" >> À: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Envoyé: Mercredi 1 Avril 2015 20:29:55 >> Objet: Re:

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

I have not competed in the KGS tournaments for many years, but here is my suggestion: now that CGOS is up and running again, set a minimum rating level on CGOS, perhaps something like 1000 or 1200. In that way new programers will be encouraged to use CGOS for primary comparison against existing

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

That might be good, but as you expect, the KGS tournament handler does not support it. It does not allow me to set a bar, and say that "all players 3-dan and better count as 3-dan, and handicaps will be used". Nick On 1 April 2015 at 14:22, Darren Cook wrote: > > I will be willing to welcome p

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Perhaps switch to McMahon? On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Darren Cook wrote: > > I will be willing to welcome players of all strengths, if that is what > the > > strong players want... > > Winning against a much weak player does not prove anything, nor teach > you much. (In contrast to losing a

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

> I will be willing to welcome players of all strengths, if that is what the > strong players want... Winning against a much weak player does not prove anything, nor teach you much. (In contrast to losing against a stronger player.) I wonder if handicaps could be used? E.g. the elite players coul

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

computer-go.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 1 Avril 2015 20:29:55 > Objet: Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13 > > I would like to as well but when I asked (somewhere in 2012 iirc) I was > told that it should first become a bit better :-) > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:00:18

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:29 PM, folkert wrote: > I would like to as well but when I asked (somewhere in 2012 iirc) I was > told that it should first become a bit better :-) > Yes, I talked to Nick about it and the general rule seems to be that the bot should have a reasonable chance at beating G

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Objet: Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13 I would like to as well but when I asked (somewhere in 2012 iirc) I was told that it should first become a bit better :-) On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:00:18PM +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: > Thank you for organising this for so many years, Nick! I th

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Hi Nick, Ah so that is possible! As I wrote in my previous e-mail that was not the case in ~2012. Can you persuede them to create a rated account for my program Stop? On cgos it has a rating of 618. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:38:08PM +0100, Nick Wedd wrote: > Hi Urban, > > As a general guidelin

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

I would like to as well but when I asked (somewhere in 2012 iirc) I was told that it should first become a bit better :-) On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:00:18PM +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: > Thank you for organising this for so many years, Nick! I think the email is > a bit wrong though. > > Here's th

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Hey Nick, thanks. Well, the bot is a basic UCT bot. It can beat GnuGo on 9x9 no problem, but obviously it doesn't translate well to 13x13 or 19x19. It's strength is also somewhat dependent on the time limit is it's hard to tell if it's as strong as GnuGo. I'll just leave it on the 13x13 CGOS and i

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Hi Urban, As a general guideline for how strong a bot must be to enter these events, I say it should only enter if it has a reasonable chance of beating GNU Go, which at KGS 7k is weaker than any of the regular players. If you have implemented kgsGtp, you could run your bot on KGS against human p

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

As Urban Hafner has pointed out, the April tournament will be 13x13, not 19x19 as I wrote. Nick On 31 March 2015 at 11:29, Nick Wedd wrote: > The April KGS bot tournament will be this Sunday, April 5th, starting at > 08:00 UTC and ending by 14:00 UTC. It will use 19x19 boards, with time > limi

Re: [Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

Thank you for organising this for so many years, Nick! I think the email is a bit wrong though. Here's the link to the actual tournament: http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=955 It's also not 19x19, but (at least according to the KGS page) it's 13x13. :) Now on to my actual question: Are any o

[Computer-go] April KGS bot tournament, 13x13

The April KGS bot tournament will be this Sunday, April 5th, starting at 08:00 UTC and ending by 14:00 UTC. It will use 19x19 boards, with time limits of 9 minutes each plus fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7.5. There are details at http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=95