Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks, but I need them reduced by reflection and rotation symmetries (and leave the center empty so 3^8 + 3^5 + 3^3 and than reduce) Am 03.11.2015 um 19:32 schrieb Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira: > If you are considering only black stone, white, empty

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Álvaro Begué
I get 1107 (954 in the middle + 135 on the edge + 18 on a corner). Álvaro. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Detlef Schmicker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks, but I need them reduced by reflection and rotation symmetries > (and leave the

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 03.11.2015 um 20:24 schrieb Jim O'Flaherty: > I don't see how "leave the center empty" works as a valid case, > assuming this it just any valid 3x3 window on the board. Given bots > playing each other, there can be 9x9 clumps of a stone of the

[Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I could not find the number of 3x3 patterns in Go, if used all symmetrie s. Can anybody give me a hint, were to find. Harvesting 4 games I get 1093:) Thanks, Detlef -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
Ah. That makes sense. It's a pattern centered on a possible next move. Very cool. Tysvm for explaining. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Detlef Schmicker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Am 03.11.2015 um 20:24 schrieb Jim O'Flaherty: > > I don't

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
If you are considering only black stone, white, empty and border, ignoring symmetry, wouldn't it be 3^9 + 3^6 + 3^4 3^9 for patterns away from the border, 3^6 for near the sides and 3^4 near the corners, assuming you are also interested in the center value. This makes 20493, then you need

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
I don't see how "leave the center empty" works as a valid case, assuming this it just any valid 3x3 window on the board. Given bots playing each other, there can be 9x9 clumps of a stone of the same color. I can see it being argued there is no computational value in this specific pattern instance.

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread David Fotland
a table to map the pattern IDs to a set of consecutive index, 0-1251. David From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Jim O'Flaherty Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:35 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

Re: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns

2015-11-03 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Detlef Schmicker" <d...@physik.de> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:17 AM Subject: [Computer-go] Number of 3x3 patterns I could not find the number of 3x3 patterns in Go, if used all sy