On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 12:39 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
Most of those 55 distinct moves are rarely used in the opening. I once
heard a simple rule which seems to cover just about everything
interesting: consider only moves which are on the 3rd and 4th lines,
and/or within a manhattan distance
I've not tryed it for the moment due to lack of time for computer go,
but I've thinked about an opening heuristic thta from a go player point
of view seems acceptable :
- For the first play, restrict to intersection at a manhatan distance of
2 from the corner hoshi (4-4 points) (and tengen if
the thing about within manhattan distance (small) of other stones type
heuristics is that they seem to leave out the possibility of tenuki.
s.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Thomas Lavergne
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I've not tryed it for the moment due to lack of time for computer go,
but
Not really... Thomas's rules include all the typical tenuki points.
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On Dec 11, 2008, at 9:29 AM, steve uurtamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the thing about within manhattan distance (small) of other stones
type
heuristics is that they seem to leave out the possibility of
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, steve uurtamo wrote:
the thing about within manhattan distance (small) of other stones type
heuristics is that they seem to leave out the possibility of tenuki.
No, tenuki is handled by small distance from hoshi.
In the start of the game, almost all
Hi guys,
It would be interesting to know how everyone limits the number of possible
moves at the
beginning of the game. Assuming the board is 19x19 with no handicap and black
placed a stone,
that leaves (in theory) 390 possible positions which translates to 390 children
from the root
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:56 +, tony tang wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be interesting to know how everyone limits the number of
possible moves at the
beginning of the game. Assuming the board is 19x19 with no handicap
and black placed a stone,
that leaves (in theory) 390 possible
From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:56 +, tony tang wrote:
Some of my programs do not place any stone on the edge, unless it
touches some other stone. I also count the diagonal, so if there is a
stone diagonally next to an edge point, I allow a move to that
Back to the original question - accounting for symmetry, there 55 distinct
opening moves on a 19x19 board.
Are there a noted collection of these opening moves? if so could you direct me
to the
material? cheers ___ computer-go
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From: tony tang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Back to the original question - accounting for symmetry, there 55 distinct
opening moves on a 19x19 board.
Are there a noted collection of these opening moves? if so could you direct me
to the
material? cheers
Do you
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 12:03 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:56 +, tony tang wrote:
Some of my programs do not place any stone on the edge, unless it
touches some other stone. I also count the diagonal, so if there is a
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:39:55PM -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
I once heard a simple rule which seems to cover just about everything
interesting: consider only moves which are on the 3rd and 4th lines,
and/or within a manhattan distance of n, for some small n, of some other
stone already on
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 12:39 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
Most of those 55 distinct moves are rarely used in the opening. I once
heard a simple rule which seems to cover just about everything
interesting: consider only moves which are on the 3rd and 4th lines,
and/or within a manhattan distance
And 6-7 every now and then (humans imitating MC bots?).
Do you play go competitively, Tony?
Dave
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Heikki Levanto
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Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] MC Opening stage
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:57:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And 6-7 every now and then (humans imitating MC bots?).
Well, didn't Bruce Wilcox recommend an opening that built a line across the
board, starting at 4-10 (middle of the side). Was supposed to be effective
against people who
From: Heikki Levanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:39:55PM -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
I once heard a simple rule which seems to cover just about everything
interesting: consider only moves which are on the 3rd and 4th lines,
and/or within a manhattan distance of n, for
Heikki LevantoVerzonden: wo 10-12-2008 21:50Aan:
computer-goOnderwerp: Re: [computer-go] MC Opening stage
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:39:55PM -0800, terry mcintyre wrote: I once heard a
simple rule which seems to cover just about everything interesting: consider
only moves which are on the 3rd
People sometimes play all kinds of silly things. It's not necessary to
anticipate it all, just make sure you can keep playing reasonable
moves when the other side plays strangely. There's little problem with
continuing to play in the corners and sides when your opponent decides
to do something
they are being played (KGS for
instance: www.gokgs,com).
Dave
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens tony tang
Verzonden: wo 10-12-2008 22:08
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Onderwerp: RE: [computer-go] MC Opening stage
Grandad taught me how to play when i was a kid (touching story
I've experimented with simple stuff like pruning symmetrical moves for
the first two moves, and disallowing 1st and 2nd line moves for the
first N moves.
I toyed with the idea of rotatable zorbist hashes, but never
implemented it.
You should look up Remi's technique of progressive
and there are nontrivial arguments concerning points way out near the center.
s.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM, terry mcintyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: tony tang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Back to the original question - accounting for symmetry, there 55
Most of those 55 distinct moves are rarely used in the opening. I
once heard a simple rule which seems to cover just about everything
interesting: consider only moves which are on the 3rd and 4th lines,
and/or within a manhattan distance of n, for some small n, of some
other stone already on
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