[computer-go] Re: AMAF

2008-10-22 Thread Darren Cook
(I'd like to hijack Denis's mail; I've changed the subject) My tests shows that even with as few as 10 amaf simulation per move, the win rate against the pure-random strategy is almost 100%. I'd thought people were saying that AMAF only helped with weak bots. Once the playouts were cleverer,

[computer-go] Re: AMAF (from daren)

2008-10-22 Thread Denis fidaali
-- Darren Cook darren at dcook.org -- (I'd like to hijack Denis's mail; I've changed the subject) My tests shows that even with as few as 10 amaf simulation per move, the win rate against the

Re: [computer-go] Re: AMAF

2008-10-22 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting Darren Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But that is just an impression I'd picked up from day to day reading of this list; and at CG2008 people were still talking about AMAF in their papers (*). Can someone with a strong bot confirm or deny that AMAF is still useful? Valkyria probably has the

Re: [computer-go] Re: AMAF

2008-10-22 Thread Don Dailey
AMAF is very powerful. It's all in the details of course but for a given level of CPU effort, you can pull more information using AMAF. I think the way it's used in strong programs is that it's gradually phased out, which is probably the best way to use it. At some point AMAF loses to pure