Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-13 Thread Peter Drake
Of Isaac Deutsch Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:27 PM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts? 50k playouts. they apply globally. Am 13.09.2009 um 01:22 schrieb Jason House: Same number of playouts? What are your pattern weights

[computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-12 Thread Isaac Deutsch
I now have playouts based on 3x3 pattern weights. When I tested it on CGOS it seemed to be weaker than my old engine which used light playouts only. I used a comparable setup, and the elo difference is about 100 after more than 150 games. I can also seem some weird RAVE value patterns (not

Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-12 Thread Jason House
Same number of playouts? What are your pattern weights? Do they apply around the last move played or for all board areas? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Isaac Deutsch i...@gmx.ch wrote: I now have playouts based on 3x3 pattern weights. When I tested it on CGOS it seemed

Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-12 Thread Isaac Deutsch
50k playouts. they apply globally. Am 13.09.2009 um 01:22 schrieb Jason House: Same number of playouts? What are your pattern weights? Do they apply around the last move played or for all board areas? ___ computer-go mailing list

RE: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-12 Thread David Fotland
12, 2009 4:27 PM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts? 50k playouts. they apply globally. Am 13.09.2009 um 01:22 schrieb Jason House: Same number of playouts? What are your pattern weights? Do they apply around the last move

Re: [computer-go] pure 3x3 pattern playouts weaker than light playouts?

2009-09-12 Thread Isaac Deutsch
Did you learn weight for every possible pattern using the crazystone algorithm, or are you just using the basic mogo patterns? No, all 1000 and something weights are learned using the algorithm. Are you using global patterns as UCT priors, or to choose moves during playouts? During