[computer-go] Can Go be solved???... PLEASE help!

2007-01-14 Thread Mehdi Ahmadi
I just wanted to thank everyone - so far - for their responses/ help biblio's... even though some responses sling off topic... and also to add my 2-cent. Although I am very new to the world of Go... and my understanding very limited - I would like to believe that there are hidden solutions

Re: [computer-go] reign of terror

2007-01-14 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hello, this version plays on a 4 processors machine, so there is limited access. For the moment, I let only play limited versions of MoGo on cgos, so that I can run several on only one machine. This takes little resources and I get interesting statistics. It will play again if new opponents come.

Re: [computer-go] Can Go be solved???... PLEASE help!

2007-01-14 Thread Richard Delorme
Joshua Shriver a écrit : I agree, anyone play othello/Reversi? Yes, I do othello programming. From my understanding it has been solved. Yet when I try to find info Othello 6x6 has been solved (and can be easily played perfectly on modern computer), but othello 8x8 is still unsolved, as far

Re: [computer-go] Can Go be solved???... PLEASE help!

2007-01-14 Thread Nick Leaton
Blokus www.blokus.com looks like an interesting challenge that is similar to go, but doesn't have so large a state space. It has some similarities to go if you are using pattern templates to look for structures. NIck On 1/14/07, Richard Delorme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Shriver a écrit

RE: [computer-go] Can Go be solved???... PLEASE help!

2007-01-14 Thread David Fotland
I have a strong blockus program. If anyone wants to set up a server I'll put it up. Blockus has 4 players, so there is the issue of cooperation between several players against one other. My implementation is just alpha-beta iterative deepening, transposition table, etc. David Fotland

RE: [computer-go] reign of terror

2007-01-14 Thread David Fotland
How many simulations per move in the 2300 version? I think you older version did about 70,000, and your weaker versions do 3000, 5000, or 1. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain Gelly Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:22 AM

[computer-go] RE: other challenges

2007-01-14 Thread Dave Dyer
There's already a pretty satisfactory blokus server and a pretty active community of players, at blokus.com. If computer go people are looking for easier worlds to conquer (call it educational training for the real challenge) there is no shortage of candidate games. One that has an active

[computer-go] kgsGtp sometimes aborts commands

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Drake
Orego is getting confused by kgsGtp when something like this happens (from kgsGtp log): FINE: Starting game as black against dirkie Jan 12, 2007 12:22:33 PM org.igoweb.igoweb.client.gtp.P i WARNING: Opponent has left game. Will give them 5 minutes to return. Jan 12, 2007 12:22:33 PM

Re: [computer-go] Testing against gnugo

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Drake
Ah, accounting for that seems to fix the problem. Thanks! Peter Drake Assistant Professor of Computer Science Lewis Clark College http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 13, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Eduardo Sabbatella Riccardi wrote: It seems that you GTP implementation doesn´t implements the

[computer-go] Go and IQ training

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Olsson
This is a bit off topic, but I am wondering if a person can play Go to increase their IQ or improve their intelligence. Also, are there any other games or methods that one can use to improve their IQ. From what I have read Kasparov's IQ is around 135 so playing Chess doesn't really increase a

Re: [computer-go] Go and IQ training

2007-01-14 Thread steve uurtamo
From what I have read Kasparov's IQ is around 135 so playing Chess doesn't really increase a person's IQ. But Kasparov started at 60. s. TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks

Re: [computer-go] Go and IQ training

2007-01-14 Thread Mark Boon
The problem is: how do you check? You'd need twins and have one of them play Go or Chess. I even don't know if the intelligence of twins is the same from the start. When at university there were two identical twins in the same year. With identical I mean, really identical. They were

Re: [computer-go] Go and IQ training

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Olsson
Thanks to everyone who replied. There is a paper that outlines the difference between Chess and Go. http://users.eniinternet.com/bradleym/Compare.html Are there any places on the internet where methods and techniques for improving intelligence are discussed. I tried many search

Re: [computer-go] Fast Board implementation

2007-01-14 Thread George Dahl
What should the mercy threshold be for other board sizes than 9 by 9, particularly 19 by 19? - George Dahl Here are a few speedup tricks that have helped me. 1. The mercy rule. Since I'm incrementally keeping track of a list of empty points, it's no real extra pain to keep track of the

Re: [computer-go] Fast UCT (epsilon trick)

2007-01-14 Thread dhillismail
It's good that you posted this. I liked the paper. (And I understand proof number search a little better after reading it too.) But it describes the epsilon trick in terms of transposition tables which I don't use. I didn't see how it would apply to a broader range of applications or,