Re: [computer-go] scalability study

2007-01-29 Thread Ɓukasz Lew
On 1/29/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand what you are saying here. Here is what I THINK you are saying ... simple MC with all as first beats standard UCT at 19x19 go. Is that what you mean? Yes, That is what I meant. I.e. Noise is so high on 19x19, that You need

[computer-go] scalability study

2007-01-29 Thread Don Dailey
So far, each doubling has produced extremely lopsided scores in 19x19 Go. In fact, the superiority of the higher level has increased with each doubling - but I think that is a temporary phenomenon that will eventually turn around. I think this also happened in 9x9 go at really low levels.

Re: [computer-go] scalability study

2007-01-29 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 05:13:44PM -0500, Don Dailey wrote: With help from other I will extend this as much as possible to much higher levels. Someone is helping me run games even now as I write this at higher levels - but the rate of play is quite slow, so it will be some time until we get

[computer-go] Is skill transitive? No.

2007-01-29 Thread Don Dailey
I was looking at many of the posts on the threads about how things scale with humans and computers and I'm trying to reconcile many of the various opinions and intuitions. I think there were many legitimate points brought up that I appeared to be brushing off. In computations done by computer,

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Erik S. Steinmetz
I don't think I'm violating my terms of use by quoting only part of the article, so here are the concluding paragraphs, after spending over half the article explaining that computer go is difficult: In the past two decades researchers have explored several alternative strategies, from

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Sylvain Gelly
It is ranked 2,323rd in the world and in Europe's top 300. I have no idea where these numbers come from and what they mean... :-? Sylvain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread steve uurtamo
It is ranked 2,323rd in the world and in Europe's top 300. I have no idea where these numbers come from and what they mean... :-? you mean you don't know your own world 9x9 ranking?!? for shame! s.

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Erik S. Steinmetz
The web edition does not list an author (though presumably one could inquire with their Science and Technology editor). I will get my print edition today, if the mail is timely, and will see if they list the author there. The web edition also links to your page at:

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Sylvain Gelly
2007/1/29, Erik S. Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The web edition does not list an author (though presumably one could inquire with their Science and Technology editor). I will get my print edition today, if the mail is timely, and will see if they list the author there. I think I know who the

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Peter Drake
The author is presumably Chris Lydgate, who interviewed me on this. (Did he interview other people on this list.) I was hoping to be quoted in the Economist. Oh, well. :-) Peter Drake Assistant Professor of Computer Science Lewis Clark College http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 29,

[computer-go] February KGS online computer Go Tournament

2007-01-29 Thread Nick Wedd
The February 2007 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday, February 4th, in the Asian evening, European morning and American night, starting at 09:00 UTC and ending at about 12:00 UTC. The Formal division will be six-round Swiss, and use 13x13 boards with 13 minutes sudden death,

Re: [computer-go] computer Go article in The Economist

2007-01-29 Thread Benjamin Teuber
Peter Drake wrote: The author is presumably Chris Lydgate, who interviewed me on this. (Did he interview other people on this list.) He asked about my experience playing against Mogo, as I mentioned my losses here - but he didn't react to my answer, which seems a bit strange to me. It's

Re: [computer-go] Is skill transitive? No.

2007-01-29 Thread Matt Gokey
Don Dailey wrote: I was looking at many of the posts on the threads about how things scale with humans and computers and I'm trying to reconcile many of the various opinions and intuitions. I think there were many legitimate points brought up that I appeared to be brushing off. In computations