[computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Rémi Coulom
Hi, Anybody knows what is rz-74? It is playing very strong at 19x19, and it looks like nothing I have seen before. Monte-Carlo with a lot of domain knowledge, maybe. A very strong classical program converted to Monte-Carlo would be my guess. Probably not MonteGNU. Handtalk? Go++? Very

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Don Dailey
I was curious about that too, who is rz-74? The name is perhaps a clue. Is it at version 74?I haven't been watching the games, but are you saying it behaves like a Monte Carlo program? - Don On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 13:29 +0200, Rémi Coulom wrote: Hi, Anybody knows what is rz-74? It is

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Rémi Coulom
Don Dailey wrote: I was curious about that too, who is rz-74? The name is perhaps a clue. Is it at version 74?I haven't been watching the games, but are you saying it behaves like a Monte Carlo program? - Don After watching more games, I am less impressed by its strength. It is

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Magnus Persson
I looked at the last games played by rz-74, and it looks like a MC-program given how how it plays in the opening (odd moves in the center). I also doubt there are any traditional programs who can get 90% against gnugo on 19x19. Are there? But it seems to overplay badly in the opening in

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Don Dailey
I did a quick study of rz-74 and when playing BLACK against gnugo we get mostly very close scores, indicative of Monte Carlo: 20 B+1.5 7 B+3.5 1 B+5.5 1 B+Illegal 4 B+Resign 1 W+Resign 1 W+Time Results when playing WHITE against Gnugo-3.7.10* 2

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Rémi Coulom
Magnus Persson wrote: I looked at the last games played by rz-74, and it looks like a MC-program given how how it plays in the opening (odd moves in the center). I also doubt there are any traditional programs who can get 90% against gnugo on 19x19. Are there? I agree that the winning rate

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread terry mcintyre
Just a guess: an incarnation of Sluggo? From: Rémi Coulom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ? Magnus Persson wrote: I looked at the last games played by rz-74, and it looks like a

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Don Dailey
Perhaps on the crosstable page I should put another column that tells you, for each opponent, what your winning expectation is based on your respective ELO ratings? It would be nice to see at a glance whether you are winning more, or less, than you are expected to against specific players. -

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Jason House
On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps on the crosstable page I should put another column that tells you, for each opponent, what your winning expectation is based on your respective ELO ratings? It would be nice to see at a glance whether you are winning

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread David Doshay
On 18, Aug 2008, at 6:58 AM, terry mcintyre wrote: Just a guess: an incarnation of Sluggo? not to my knowledge, but it is true that students do things that I am not aware of and they do make up their own player names. Cheers, David ___

[computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Nick Wedd
My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Don Dailey
I saw an error in this, but when I looked again it was gone. - Don On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 17:08 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote: My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html Nick ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Nick Wedd
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I saw an error in this, but when I looked again it was gone. Yes, I normally make a few errors which I spot soon after uploading :) Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Jason House
One small correction, my server wasn't running two copies of HouseBot, it was running three. I discovered later there was a 4th running from somewhere else but haven't tracked it down yet. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Nick Wedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My report is at

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Nick Wedd wrote: My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html In the round 10 game between AyaMC and CrazyStone, the marked H8 move has no effect on life and death; the white stones are already dead. The killing move was 27 at E9. As far as I can tell white couldn't afford to

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Nick Wedd wrote: My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] yesterday's KGS bot tournament

2008-08-18 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Nick Wedd wrote: My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html [Please ignore the previous empty mail.] In round 9, MonteGNU appeared to misread a ladder in its game against CrazyStone. SGF. But maybe it knew it had no way to win. Yes, it was the usual Monte Carlo nonsense

Re: [computer-go] rz-74 on CGOS ?

2008-08-18 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Rémi Coulom wrote: Don Dailey wrote: I was curious about that too, who is rz-74? The name is perhaps a clue. Is it at version 74?I haven't been watching the games, but are you saying it behaves like a Monte Carlo program? - Don After watching more games, I am less impressed by

[computer-go] http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/ site down?

2008-08-18 Thread Ian Osgood
I haven't been able to access the ICGA tournament site for over a week. Anyone know anything about it? Ian ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/