Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!
Got it :-). Thanks. Le 12 janv. 2015 14:59, Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com a écrit : Congratulations to Zen19S, undefeated winner of yesterday's 19x19 KGS bot tournament! My report is http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/109/index.html As usual, I hope you will report any errors or comments to me. Nick P.S. I am now using gmail as my mail client, and it refuses to show me any email which I wrote (like this one). So I hope that at least one person will respond to this, and let me know that it has reached the mailing list. N -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!
Congratulations to Zen19S, undefeated winner of yesterday's 19x19 KGS bot tournament! My report is http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/109/index.html As usual, I hope you will report any errors or comments to me. Nick P.S. I am now using gmail as my mail client, and it refuses to show me any email which I wrote (like this one). So I hope that at least one person will respond to this, and let me know that it has reached the mailing list. N -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Representing Komi for neural network
Todays bot tournament nicego19n (oakfoam) played with a CNN for move Great! oakfoam had played with CNN already. Second game vs Aya was difficult semeai with ko. http://files.gokgs.com/games/2015/1/11/NiceGo19N-AyaMC.sgf one position taking about 1.6ms on the GTX-970. If C++ one thread do same thing, how slow is it? 10 times slower? Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!
Nick, I just had the same problem. Gmail is being over helpful by grouping all emails with the exact same title as a thread. So, goto your Sent folder. Look for the email with the Subject you just used. Notice there is a number in parenthesis to the right indicating the number of emails in the thread. Select that email. Scroll to the bottom. And if it is not already expanded, select the final email in the thread, and you should see the one you sent. I sure wish there was more options in Gmail around this behavior. Jim O'Flaherty On Jan 12, 2015 7:59 AM, Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Zen19S, undefeated winner of yesterday's 19x19 KGS bot tournament! My report is http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/109/index.html As usual, I hope you will report any errors or comments to me. Nick P.S. I am now using gmail as my mail client, and it refuses to show me any email which I wrote (like this one). So I hope that at least one person will respond to this, and let me know that it has reached the mailing list. N -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] CNN tool applied in practice
Dear Detlef, Todays bot tournament nicego19n (oakfoam) played with a CNN for move prediction. congratulation to the performance of your bot, and thanks for letting us know. Will you let NiceGo play in the KGS computer room against humans to see how it performs? Thumbs pressed, Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!
Jim, Thank you! That is very useful. I have found a load of test messages, all threaded together under the title test. Serve me right, I guess. Nick On 12 January 2015 at 15:47, Jim O'Flaherty jim.oflaherty...@gmail.com wrote: Nick, I just had the same problem. Gmail is being over helpful by grouping all emails with the exact same title as a thread. So, goto your Sent folder. Look for the email with the Subject you just used. Notice there is a number in parenthesis to the right indicating the number of emails in the thread. Select that email. Scroll to the bottom. And if it is not already expanded, select the final email in the thread, and you should see the one you sent. I sure wish there was more options in Gmail around this behavior. Jim O'Flaherty On Jan 12, 2015 7:59 AM, Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Zen19S, undefeated winner of yesterday's 19x19 KGS bot tournament! My report is http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/109/index.html As usual, I hope you will report any errors or comments to me. Nick P.S. I am now using gmail as my mail client, and it refuses to show me any email which I wrote (like this one). So I hope that at least one person will respond to this, and let me know that it has reached the mailing list. N -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CNN tool applied in practice
Thanks, I will, but it will take some time. It is a problem of resources: As I have holidays in the summer I think of visiting Advances in Computer Games 2015 in Leiden. And I do not want to go there with nothing! So I need my graphic card for CNN training as I think of doing some research on CNN for position evaluation. Hopefully there will be some computer go people:) On the other hand, I did not tune any of the important progressive widening parameters for the bot, which would take another week at least... Am 12.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Ingo Althöfer: Dear Detlef, Todays bot tournament nicego19n (oakfoam) played with a CNN for move prediction. congratulation to the performance of your bot, and thanks for letting us know. Will you let NiceGo play in the KGS computer room against humans to see how it performs? Thumbs pressed, Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Representing Komi for neural network
Hi Hiroshi, I try to layout my approach: - expandLeaf: expands a leaf node, after being visited 10 times (a parameter, but increasing it usually did not harm playing strength significantly) it contains a if (!expandmutex.try_lock()) return false; which was in the code anyway to avoid, that the same node was expanded by two different threads. The second thread just works with the not expanded node, if the first thread is busy expanding it and goes on with the playout. In this case we had some delayed expansion anyway, as this thread is doing the playout with the node, which should have been expanded before. The only thing I changed: expandmutex was a mutex local to the node before, now it is a global mutex. Now no node is being expanded, if one expansion is in progress by another thread, but the playouts go on with the not expanded nodes as usual. I did not measure how often a node is visited on average now before being expanded, but with our relatively slow playouts and the not too big CNN I do not think it goes a lot above 15 or so. Tests indicated that even 30 for the parameter was not a problem for the playing strength before. I think including the CNN does not reduce the playouts/move significantly. I did no exact measurements, just was happy to see my usual numbers:) Even the 1.6ms used by the CNN will be on resources (graphic card) different from the cpu, therefore other threads (8 threads on 4 cores) might take the time to use the cpu resources. Am 12.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Hiroshi Yamashita: Todays bot tournament nicego19n (oakfoam) played with a CNN for move Great! oakfoam had played with CNN already. Second game vs Aya was difficult semeai with ko. http://files.gokgs.com/games/2015/1/11/NiceGo19N-AyaMC.sgf one position taking about 1.6ms on the GTX-970. If C++ one thread do same thing, how slow is it? 10 times slower? Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] alternative for cgos
Hi, I'm actually working on something similar at http://baduk.io. Right now, you can log in an play against a handful of bots over the web, but one day I'd love to make it so you can add your own bots to let them compete against the others. It's not quite ready for the public, but I'm working to get something small working quickly. Unlike CGOS, the bots are all hosted--they all run inside Docker (http://docker.io/) containers. The Dockerfiles I've written for a few public bots are available at my github repository https://github.com/baduk-io/ai-dockerfiles. What sorts of things would you expect from such a service? I was planning on modeling baduk.io after CGOS in a lot of ways as far as the rules that are used (area scoring, no dead stones removed, etc), and distinct ratings for 9x9, 13x13, and 19x19 boards. What sorts of improvements do you think could be made in a new service? Do you have a preference for ELO ratings over kyu/dan ratings? Chris LaRose On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:47 AM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote: Hi, I have the feeling that cgos won't come back in even the distant future so I was wondering if there are any alternatives? E.g. a server that constantly lets go engines play against each other and then determines an elo rating for them. Folkert van Heusden -- Afraid of irssi? Scared of bitchx? Does xchat gives you bad shivers? In all these cases take a look at http://www.vanheusden.com/fi/ maybe even try it or use it for all your day-to-day IRC conversations! --- Phone: +31-6-41278122, PGP-key: 1F28D8AE, www.vanheusden.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] alternative for cgos
Won’t hosting limit your usability? With cgos I can build and immediately test on cgos on my development machine. With your service, how do I get my new executable to run? If my engine uses a GPU or is a multinode cluster, how does that run on your docker service? David From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Chris LaRose Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] alternative for cgos Hi, I'm actually working on something similar at http://baduk.io. Right now, you can log in an play against a handful of bots over the web, but one day I'd love to make it so you can add your own bots to let them compete against the others. It's not quite ready for the public, but I'm working to get something small working quickly. Unlike CGOS, the bots are all hosted--they all run inside Docker (http://docker.io/) containers. The Dockerfiles I've written for a few public bots are available at my github repository https://github.com/baduk-io/ai-dockerfiles. What sorts of things would you expect from such a service? I was planning on modeling baduk.io after CGOS in a lot of ways as far as the rules that are used (area scoring, no dead stones removed, etc), and distinct ratings for 9x9, 13x13, and 19x19 boards. What sorts of improvements do you think could be made in a new service? Do you have a preference for ELO ratings over kyu/dan ratings? Chris LaRose On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:47 AM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote: Hi, I have the feeling that cgos won't come back in even the distant future so I was wondering if there are any alternatives? E.g. a server that constantly lets go engines play against each other and then determines an elo rating for them. Folkert van Heusden -- Afraid of irssi? Scared of bitchx? Does xchat gives you bad shivers? In all these cases take a look at http://www.vanheusden.com/fi/ maybe even try it or use it for all your day-to-day IRC conversations! --- Phone: +31-6-41278122 tel:%2B31-6-41278122 , PGP-key: 1F28D8AE, www.vanheusden.com ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
