What about arimaa?
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:28 AM, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote:
> It seems, we are living in extremely
> heavy times ...
>
> I want to go to bed now and meditate for threee days.
>
>> DeepMind makes strongest Chess and Shogi programs with AlphaGo Zero method.
>>
Where can it be viewed online?
-Josh
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Ray Tayek wrote:
> http://www.usgo.org/news/2017/05/alphago-watch-parties-planned-across-u-s/
>
> looks like 10:30 pm monday.
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from
Is there a specific site to go to to sign up on the new list or was
everything migrated transparently?
-Josh
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Xavier Combelle
wrote:
> Strangely enougth I received all the said messages
>
>
> Le 23/01/2017 à 06:20, "Ingo Althöfer" a
My domain expires in 6 days, so heads up it's free to grab if anyone wants it.
-Josh
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>> - the game AI forum
>> - news sites
>> - aggregators of tournament information, ICGA
>> - aggregator or list of upcoming conferences
>> - links to software and tools
>> - lists of publications, Martin Müller's page, etc
>>
>> Gonçalo
>
Does anyone have interest in that domain name? I'd be willing to
transfer it to a new owner for free. It came up a year or so back and
I grabbed it just in case but never used it.
Rather see it go to someone who can use it rather than squat. It's
already for another year.
-Josh
gt;>> On 18, Mar 2016, at 12:49 PM, Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira <go...@sapo.pt> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know how up-to-date computer-go.info is, but it appears a better
>>> target for redirecting.
>>>
>>> - Gonçalo
>>>
>>> On 18/03/20
On a site note, I really feel bad for Kasparov. Seems like anytime
there is a human vs computer game match the news always brings up Deep
Blue. It has to feel bad to always see your name time and time again
be used as a "loser" instead of the remarkable an legendary chess
player he is.
Just my
My money is on Google they already have a lot of algo's for pattern
matching and analysis. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
Nice link :)
-Josh
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote:
>
Thank you so much for running CGOS! Looks like it's running very
smoothly and you are doing a great job.
Would you like me to take down the boardspace site, and make a referal
link to your CGOS? That way we can migrate and make sure people are
all working on the right server.
-Josh
On Fri,
I did a restart of the 9x9 and 19x19 as a test. Anyone mind testing it
to see if you can connect?
I left 13x13 alone since it just worked.
Know a couple people have forked the cgos codebase which is wonderful!
If anyone needs help Im willing to share info, or help best I can. I
just had such a
Thank you so much for running this!
-Josh
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:
> Hi Remi,
>
>> I plan to let it play forever.
>
>
> That's awesome!
> Strong program is nice benchmark and motivation for others
> (of cource including me).
>
>> I noticed the
It's on my agenda. Just finished moving 1/2 across country so I'll
have time again to work on CGOS.
-Josh
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will see
Detlef
P.S.: I do not have tcl experience, so repacking would be try and error
Am 03.05.2015 um 07:35 schrieb Joshua Shriver:
Would you be willing to help me revitalize cgos.computergo.org? I can
even give you ssh access.
This we your server can sit on a dedicated IP
Detlef
P.S.: I do not have tcl experience, so repacking would be try and error
Am 03.05.2015 um 07:35 schrieb Joshua Shriver:
Would you be willing to help me revitalize cgos.computergo.org? I can
even give you ssh access.
This we your server can sit on a dedicated IP/domain and we
Let me check the server, if need be will restart it.
-Josh
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Igor Polyakov
weiqiprogramm...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't been able to run my bot.
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Ok restarted, hope it pops back up ok. Watching logs.
-Josh
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Igor Polyakov
weiqiprogramm...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't been able to run my bot.
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Working on it :)
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
Thanks for connecting!
Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:
Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and it
seems to be working.
My favorite setting would be
Forgot to mention there is another table called anchors. Basically it
just has gnugo and set to (1800?) if memory serves. This gets used in
bayeselo for comparison calculations.
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schrieb Joshua Shriver:
Working on it :)
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
Thanks for connecting!
Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:
Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and
it
seems to be working.
My
Would you be willing to help me revitalize cgos.computergo.org? I can
even give you ssh access.
This we your server can sit on a dedicated IP/domain and we can kinda
refresh things a bit and have a clean work/server space.
Just let me know.
-Josh
I'm still curious how you got around the
Also how good are you and un-tcl packing and rebuilding? Would LOVE
to have native packages with the cgos.computergo.org hard coded if
possible.
Anyway would love to work with you.
Side note, any OS X people here willing in the future to make OS X
client/view compiles from the future github? If
, but it should have a quick start and
room for improvement later:)
Detlef
Am 03.04.2015 um 16:11 schrieb Joshua Shriver:
Agree as well. But would like to offer both options. Planning to
use github and make it 100% open source.
-Josh
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Christoph Birk
b
Agree as well. But would like to offer both options. Planning to
use github and make it 100% open source.
-Josh
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Christoph Birk
b...@obs.carnegiescience.edu wrote:
On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:40 AM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote:
My goal is to move away from
BTW I greatly appreciate all the input! and put in TODO.txt
Since I do plan to make this open source and ON github.
Guess I'm looking for helper developers
I own like 12 servers so can host, while keeping the solid boardspace in tact.
In fact I just bought 2 more servers, 1 real 1
What elements did you like about CGOS and what do you wish for?
I've begun writing a new version from scratch that isn't TCL based.
With the aim for future use and also open source and open to public
commits.
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the 13x13 server is working now.
-Magnus
On 2015-03-04 09:18, Urban Hafner wrote:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Joshua Shriver jshri...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks for the heads up *sigh*
I really am contemplating re-writing CGOS from scratch. TCL is
just
quirky as hell. Plus would make
. After a connect the programs sit there, waiting
forever.
On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 09:55:33AM -0500, Joshua Shriver wrote:
It was migrated back to the original boardspace. Please try there.
cgos.boardspace.net
-Josh
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:14 PM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote:
Hi
It was migrated back to the original boardspace. Please try there.
cgos.boardspace.net
-Josh
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:14 PM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote:
Hi,
It looks like cgos.computergo.org is down?
All bots fail to connect over here.
Folkert van Heusden
--
You've probably
Let me check.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Christoph Birk
b...@obs.carnegiescience.edu wrote:
On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Joshua Shriver jshri...@gmail.com wrote:
It was migrated back to the original boardspace. Please try there.
cgos.boardspace.net
The 9x9 and 19x19 servers never got
I recycled them, hopefully the 13x13 will be back up at least.
-Josh
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Christoph Birk
b...@obs.carnegiescience.edu wrote:
On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Joshua Shriver jshri...@gmail.com wrote:
It was migrated back to the original boardspace. Please try
This is correct. The ELO ratings are based upon assuming Gnugo 3.7.3
has a rating of 1800 as an anchor. To generate new ratings it simply
dumps all the games and runs bayeselo on all the games adjusting the
rating on the gnugo games.
-Josh
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Detlef Schmicker
Aye I'm still tinkering with it, and trying to get anchors on. Still
having issues. :(
-Josh
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Christoph Birk
b...@obs.carnegiescience.edu wrote:
On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Urban Hafner cont...@urbanhafner.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM,
CGOS is back on boardspace.net and running. Please feel free to try
and connect like you use to and let me know. I'll be monitoring it.
It's just as it was when it was taken down after Mr. Daileys passing.
I'm grateful for Dave Dyer for hosting it in the past, and for
keeping a clean copy of
I'll try and get CGOS back online before this weekend. Technically it
should be running now, but there were several issues. In order to use
it now you take the cgos client for your architecture and you have
to specify cgos.computergo.org manually since the binaries are
hardcoded to the old
Anyone have a list of stable, freely downloadable Go engines that I
could use as anchors?
Name/download/ELO rating would be appreciated.
Figured worse case I'd use gnugo for an anchor but would like to have
a couple of varying strength.
They can run on Windows or Linux.
-Josh
to send you its binary and password
so that you can run it on your site.
Hideki
Joshua Shriver:
CAEdmgvYkFd-tDGL7TxYd55_bWpNBK4gk_VLBNHpWto=xwb5...@mail.gmail.com:
I'll try and get CGOS back online before this weekend. Technically it
should be running now, but there were several issues. In order
If you get a team together I'd be willing to help out with
development, technical writing, and design. Would guess or hope that
the server would be written in C or C++.
-Josh
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I'd be willing to host it. I use my site to host a lot of chess data
right now so it wouldnt be a problem.
http://www.olympuschess.com (no front page right now) usually people just go to
http://www.olympuschess.com/egtb/
-Josh
2009/12/30 Christian Nentwich christ...@modeltwozero.com:
All,
Came across this today, and since this is also an AI oriented list thought
some of you might enjoy it too.
http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/future-tech/the-past-present-and-future-of-ai-643838
-Josh
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Aye, though I hope they announce when it'll be on TV so I can record it.
-Josh
2009/10/24 Dave Dyer dd...@real-me.net
At 10:12 AM 10/24/2009, Joshua Shriver wrote:
Came across this today, and since this is also an AI oriented list thought
some of you might enjoy it too.
http
What do you mean by sanity checks? Such as legal moves?
I wrote a chess engine vs engine app, could gut and reuse it for go and
possible add legal move checking to it.
-Josh
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Folkert van Heusden
folk...@vanheusden.comwrote:
Hi,
CGOS does sanity checks on the
...@vanheusden.comwrote:
Yes, that's it. Checks if an engine does an illegal ko, puts a piece
where already is a piece, etc.
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 04:15:18PM -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote:
What do you mean by sanity checks? Such as legal moves?
I wrote a chess engine vs engine app, could gut and reuse
I know with the Chess community, it's looked down upon to use others code w/
respect to competing in tournaments. I'm curious, how is it with Go?
From my understanding, many projects are inter-linked, and even some of the
highest programs are derivatives of other engines. In the chess world that
Things like this is why I miss college. It would be really nice if they'd
give the source for free. Know several of my friends would enjoy a good AI
match locally.
-Josh
2009/3/30 Robin Kramer kodr...@gmail.com
I thought I would pass this along for my Alma mater.
http://acm.mst.edu/~mstai/
When I was big into Chess programming this was a sore topic for me as well.
I felt it was unfair for people competing in the WCCC to win if they had a
cluster of of 100 PCs, a Cray, etc, when another person was using a
P200mhz.
I believe it was Dr. Hyatt that said this and it made a lot of sense
I must be out of touch, didnt know Rybka could run on a cluster :) last I
checked he was about to release a smp version.
Lots to catch up on.
-Josh
In chess, one team is firmly dominating (Rybka), and they have since
last year also managed to acquire the best hardware (40 core cluster).
This
I'm writing my engine from scratch and have a curious question. When my
best friend an American 1dan lvl player (who has played in Japan) taught me
the game. I love it. :)
Though as I get more in depth, and programming wise, have no idea what rule
set to follow. Not sure what I was taught
You've been on this list a long time, haven't you?
Yes :) I started by tinkering with Monte Carlo in VRML for a hardware
solution, but aiming for a pure C, aimed at x86 engine.
Anyway, I don't think there is much of a question that Chinese rules
are much better for getting started with
Where is the C version for download?
-Josh
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The C reference bot indeed had a simple bug. Everything was fine except
for when the final move choice was made, I forgot to check for eye.
I am surprised it played as strongly
Is the source available would be neat to see.
-Josh
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I made a reference bot and I want someone(s) to help me check it out
with equivalent data from their own program. There are no guarantees
that I have this correct of
Let this list, and all replies be a comprehensive list of websites and docs
publically availble concerning Go dev.
-Josh
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Wish I could go, maybe next year. Amazed that the WCCC is being held at the
same place just 3 days after. :)
-Josh
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Rémi Coulom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Go programmers,
I remind you that the deadline for early registration to the ICGA Computer
Olympiad
Anyone doing any research into using NVidia's CUDA sdk for Go programming?
-Josh
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Is there a computer go forum? This mailing list has been great, and may and
the most powerful people are here. While email is nice, it would be nice to
have a website to post questions, and an easy way to search responses. I
really like talkchess.com for chess material, just wish there as a
Do you have a link to those papers?
-Josh
My go-programming efforts are very much concentrated on patterns.
(maybe I have been influenced by the Kojima-papers)
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I've greatly enjoyed Aigo over the years. I have it on my palm and have
upgrade hardware 3x and each time the author has kindly given me a new
registration code for free. Think it only cost $8 and well worth it.
Just my $0.02
-Josh
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For whatever reason my email grep'ing skills haven't spawns answers to
a previously emailed question.
In chess we have xboard/winboard. What clients do you recommend for
linux for GTP playing?
-Josh
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In addition to my previous email is there a cli based app for doing
two way gtp based head on head competitions between two engines?
-Josh
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I'd be willing to donate some CPU time. I run Ubuntu linux on a P4 3ghz with
1gig RAM. Can be configured with or w/o HT. (usually leave it off)
-Josh
On Jan 29, 2008 10:01 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 9x9 scalability study has been a huge success with 35 cpu's
participating and
Getting Primefarm looks like a hosting site page. Agree account must
have lapsed.
-Josh
On Jan 14, 2008 11:34 AM, Ian Osgood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it just me, or did the http://www.computer-go.info/ site just expire?
Ian
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I've been looking into GPGPU for several years now, there was even some buzz
in the comp-chess stream but the downsides seemed to be to much. Think the
big problem is the latency on the PCI/AGP bus. Though that might not be as
much an issue now with PCI-x, etc.
For more info I'd refer you to this
Anyone recommend a good Go GUI for Linux? Not for bot matches and suchs but
just to play gtp based engines.
For chess I use xboard and it's wondeful, would love to find a similiar tool
for Go.
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Sorry to duplicate my question, I've been digging and digging in previous
threads trying to find the answers that were posted.
Wish computer-go had a google search :)
Anyway, what is the minimal commands required to get an engine online via
gtp?
I've been working hard and hope to have an alpha
There was a thread on CCC (computer chess) about Go. An interesting post was
made that linked to Leela, a Go engine and GUI written by the author of Deep
Sjeng which is a moderate to high level chess engine.
http://www.sjeng.org/leela.html
Have any of you bought or tested the full version or
Sure, it's a long URL though.
http://64.68.157.89/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17341postdays=0postorder=asctopic_view=start=30
-Josh
On Dec 2, 2007 10:42 AM, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 2, 2007 2:02 PM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was a thread on CCC (computer
There are computer go , or even just go Magazines? Any recommendations?
-Josh
On Nov 30, 2007 6:43 AM, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
I was reading in the old computer go magazines.
In number 2 page 27 I found the attached article.
Why is nobody repeating this experiment?
If
I loaded up dog and a gnugo bot on cgos 19, it connects gives the username
password and just sits there.
Normally I'd get a string giving time till next round but seems stuck at the
login.
BTW are cgos posts still being made on computer-go or did it get migrated
off to sourceforge.
-Josh
Thanks I put two bots in. dog and gnugo.
-Josh
On Nov 28, 2007 2:25 PM, Olivier Teytaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and
restart.
I kill and restart in a few minutes.
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Ok so I've written a Go based processor in VHDL and seeking someplace
*preferably cheap* to burn it into hardware. Any recommendations?
Oh and btw did I mention CHEAP.. this is purely a 100% hobby and I'm poor.
So *cheap* is probably more important than time and output as long as it
acts like the
FPGA boards are expensive
On Nov 24, 2007 5:48 PM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want an ASIC fabricated? I don't think they do cheap. What's
wrong with FPGAs?
On Nov 24, 2007 4:07 PM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok so I've written a Go based processor in VHDL
Is there a place online or via this mailing list where you can request an
archive of older posts? Preferably the entire set for offline reading and
parsing?
-Josh
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What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
can anyone put up a gnugo bot?
-Josh
On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com
This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
needed.
, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
can anyone put up a gnugo bot?
-Josh
On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com
You could go the route chess does with egtbs.
First permutate every possible board with both stones, and start
removing pieces one at a time.
I wrote a permutation tool, but even with 3 and 4 size board the end
data file was huge.
-Josh
On 11/7/07, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just ran my perm application for 4x4 and it's reporting
43,046,721 unique board states and took 2m6.980s. Will try for 5 and 6.
-Josh
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Great work Dave! Look forward to seeing it.
-Josh
On 11/6/07, David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Akihiro has kindly agreed for us to film his talk and make it available. I
should be able to put it online somewhere – I will let you know when this is
done.
Best,
David
From:
I'm writing a SGF parse and was wondering, the moves are listed as
[pd] [dd], instead of a1 m10.
Does the letters correspond to the number equivalent, taking into
account you skip I?
So I = 9 or J=9?
-Josh
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What is a super-ko?
-Josh
On 11/1/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About once every month or two someone sends me a private email that they
have found a ko bug in CGOS and they point me to a game they lost due to
superko.
So far it's never happened that there was bug - they just
I have my own webserver and would be willing to host an OSS project like cgos.
Sourceforge is nice, but I thought one of the funky rules was that you
had to assign the copyrights to the FSF or something.
Either way, if CGOS was put under some kind of FOSS license it would
be nice, and would allow
, Joshua Shriver wrote:
I have my own webserver and would be willing to host an OSS project like
cgos.
Sourceforge is nice, but I thought one of the funky rules was that you
had to assign the copyrights to the FSF or something.
I don't think this is true. I know as part of registration, you
There has been a lot of talk about monte carlo and while I have the
jist not sure exactly what it is? Would someone explain it?
What I've read online is just to play a bunch of random games and pick
the best one. Is there now real evaluation between the games or sorted
method for generating
Not that I'm aware, but the engine I'm working on will be parallelized.
Depending on time and finances I'm even considering going down the
route of custom fpga based boards but that's on the dream list so far,
and isn't planned for RC1.
-Josh
On 10/29/07, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a lot of talk about time controls, and would like to add my input.
I agree we should have longer time controls. I'm in the very early
stages of my Go engine. With my current time line I dont anticipate
having a running engine for at least a year. My design is a good bit
different than
Anyone recommend a free SGF viewer for Linux? I'd really like to find
something like SCID but for Go.
-Josh
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I'm not able to connect to the 19x19 server either.
I even tried telnet'ing to it. Cgosviewer keeps telling me could not
execute, but I dont believe it's a binary problem since if I just run
the viewer it comes up (just doesnt connect to anything)
Here is the tail of a traceroute.
8
Alrighty figured it out
./cgosviewer cgos.lri.fr 6919
Sorry was going from various emails, but it works now :) yuppy
-Josh
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Is MoGo a commercial or free program? Open or closed source? Linux
version available?
Thanks in advance :)
-Josh
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There was some chatter a while back concerning it. I offered to admin
it, and possibly to host it. Though there was another taker so not
sure what it's current status is.
-Josh
On 10/22/07, Christoph Birk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happened to the 19x19 CGOS revival?
Christoph
mounted
via ssh (ssh filesystem)
However, I might have a solution now. I'm talking right now to David
Doshay about using one his university machines for this.
Can I get back to you on this in case it doesn't work out?
- - Don
Joshua Shriver wrote:
What kind of bandwidth would be required
What kind of bandwidth would be required and can the webserver be
different from the cgos host? If anything I can dedicated free
webspace, subdomain, whatever.
-Josh
On 10/13/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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We are having some trouble
Found this link and thought you all might find it interesting.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct07/5552
Interesting part for me so far:
At my lab at Microsoft Research Asia, in Beijing, I am organizing a
graduate student project to design the hardware and software elements
that will test the
of this
Benjamin
Joshua Shriver schrieb:
Found this link and thought you all might find it interesting.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct07/5552
Interesting part for me so far:
At my lab at Microsoft Research Asia, in Beijing, I am organizing a
graduate student project to design the hardware
Oops sorry didnt realise.
On 10/7/07, Jeff Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 17:33 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote:
Found this link and thought you all might find it interesting.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct07/5552
Umm, this article was linked to and discussed
Good Evening,
Sorry, I think this may have been asked but can't find it
anywhere in the list archives. Anyone know of a good place to get a
large sgf game database?
Preferably master games or at least 1dan level or higher?
-Josh
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Can anyone connect to the CGOS server? Trying to run Dog on the 19x19
and it wont connect.
-Josh
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Was looking in my links and noticed a new version of GoGUI was
released recently. Sept 11, 2007.
http://gogui.sourceforge.net/
-Josh
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Was reading a page about Go and came across this term. Anyone know
what it means?
Some googling yielded that it's some kind of tactic position. Though I
might have misinterpreted it.
-Josh
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Are there any really simple engines out there that know just enough to
play a legal game of Go? Preferably C, Perl or Java?
Some of the open source engines I've looked at are rather complex and
not to friendly to a beginner.
Kinda looking for the tscp of chess for go :)
-Josh
What is the difference in Go and Mathematical Go?
http://brooklyngoclub.org/jc/rulesgo.html
Is Mathamatical Go a subset of Go as the rules look the same to me as
regular go.
-Josh
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