Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

[Michael Alford]

On 12/29/15 4:10 AM, amanda oregon wrote:



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Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

[Petr Baudis]

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:59:52AM -0800, Michael Alford wrote:
> On 12/29/15 4:10 AM, amanda oregon wrote:
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> >
> >You can reach the person managing the list at
> >computer-go-ow...@computer-go.org
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> Is veg no longer the manager?

He's the list owner and pays the bills for computer-go.org; I do most of
the day-to-day (well, month-to-month) administration and moderation.

Petr Baudis
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Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

[amanda oregon]

 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Those were the days ... (Ingo Althöfer)
  2. Re: Those were the days ... (Detlef Schmicker)


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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:20:46 +0100
From: "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de>
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...
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Hello all,


> Martin understood computer go weaknesses, so he played to exploit them.  A 
> modern program 
> not specifically tuned for those weaknesses would have a much more difficult 
> time.

Agreed. Concerning CNN bots (like darkfores3), a natural way would be to find
some players of Martin's calibre who play hundreds of games against the old MFoG
at handicap 29. These games might become the training set for the CNN.

> I released version 10 in 1997, so it might be more accurate to play against 
> version 10 
> rather than against version 12 at 12 kyu level.  I probably still have a 
> version 10 CD somewhere.

I also still have one, I think.

Anyway, as soon as a serious contender shows up, I am willing to allow
a match environment that may - in case of disputes - be helpful for the bot. 

Ingo.

PS. I want to see my 1,000 Euros finding their way to a pocket of a
talented go programmer!


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 13:00:33 +0100
From: Detlef Schmicker 
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...
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I gave pure DCNN 54% a try against the 15 kyu version:)

http://files.gokgs.com/games/2015/12/29/mfgo15kyu0-NiceGo19N.sgf

There was no pass handling, therefore filled an eye, without would
have been 133.5 loss or so :)

Detlef

Am 29.12.2015 um 11:20 schrieb "Ingo Althöfer":
> Hello all,
> 
> 
>> Martin understood computer go weaknesses, so he played to exploit
>> them.  A modern program not specifically tuned for those
>> weaknesses would have a much more difficult time.
> 
> Agreed. Concerning CNN bots (like darkfores3), a natural way would
> be to find some players of Martin's calibre who play hundreds of
> games against the old MFoG at handicap 29. These games might become
> the training set for the CNN.
> 
>> I released version 10 in 1997, so it might be more accurate to
>> play against version 10 rather than against version 12 at 12 kyu
>> level.  I probably still have a version 10 CD somewhere.
> 
> I also still have one, I think.
> 
> Anyway, as soon as a serious contender shows up, I am willing to
> allow a match environment that may - in case of disputes - be
> helpful for the bot.
> 
> Ingo.
> 
> PS. I want to see my 1,000 Euros finding their way to a pocket of
> a talented go programmer! 
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