Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Jason House
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your program to run on windows We're now up to 5 people who have tried (or 3 after my initial post on this topic). I would like to thank ever

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Eric Boesch
I don't have much useful to say, but I did notice that the gcc-gdc version accepted as current by Cygwin Update is ancient: gdc is /usr/bin/gdc @eboesch ~: gdc --version gdc (GCC) 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125) Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Sometimes the us

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Janzert
Jason House wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I misunderstood Jason's email. He is trying to compile his program to run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows computer remotely eit

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Don Dailey
I don't want to get into a holy war over this, but Windows has suffered forever with this albatross around it's neck, the concept that a single physical device is an exclusive resource for one person and only one person. It's a real straight-jacket when you are used to something more sane. I th

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Jason House
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:45 AM, terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I misunderstood Jason's email. He is trying to compile his program to run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log int

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:38 -0400, Don Dailey wrote: > Where do you live? Perhaps if someone on the group with a windows > computer who happens to live near you, would let you help? Woops, what I meant to say is that perhaps someone living near you would let you physically work on their machin

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Jason House
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I misunderstood Jason's email. He is trying to compile his program to > run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows > computer remotely either without special software. > > There must be someone on

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread terry mcintyre
- Original Message From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I misunderstood Jason's email. He is trying to compile his program to >run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows >computer remotely either without special software. Rdesktop is is widely available fo

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:38 -0400, Jason House wrote: > I'm not physically attending the EGC. In order to participate, I > needed to provide a windows executable and have someone operate the > bot on my behalf. I probably should have taken advantage of the offer > to use a Linux box, but I figure

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Jason House
I'm not physically attending the EGC. In order to participate, I needed to provide a windows executable and have someone operate the bot on my behalf. I probably should have taken advantage of the offer to use a Linux box, but I figured I'd make it easier on the organizers :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Don Dailey
I misunderstood Jason's email. He is trying to compile his program to run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows computer remotely either without special software. There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your program to run on windows using the dig

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote: > I have to withdraw from this tournament. I don't have a windows > computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools > has been tougher than anticipated. Why do you need a windows computer? It's my understanding that the

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Urban Hafner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason House wrote: | I have to withdraw from this tournament. I don't have a windows | computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools | has been tougher than anticipated. It's actually my fault. But the combination of my lack

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-08-05 Thread Jason House
I have to withdraw from this tournament. I don't have a windows computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools has been tougher than anticipated. On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote: > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php) >

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-23 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Erik van der Werf wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Erik van der Werf >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Did you know t

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-23 Thread Nick Wedd
Things are looking good for the computer Go at the EGC on August 6th, see http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/. For the 19x19 event we have five "definite" entries, and six maybes. For the 9x9 we have seven "definites" and five maybes. If your program is listed as a maybe Martin Müller Gunna

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-22 Thread Don Dailey
Erik van der Werf wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Erik van der Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did you know that you can create your own linux environment without having to "touch" the machine you will be u

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-22 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Erik van der Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Did you know that you can create your own linux environment without having >> to "touch" the machine you will be using? > > I have DSL-N (Damn Sm

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-18 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rémi Coulom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Nick Wedd wrote: CrazyStonepossible possible This is "yes" from my point of view. It all depends on the availability of an operator. I expect (though I cannot promise) that there will be enough operators pre

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Erik van der Werf
Well, I only wanted to participate in 9x9. My program is strong enough to not need help from amateurs. For 19x19, if anyone really wants to cheat it is still relatively easy, even under the current restrictions. Personally I think strength of the programs should be irrelevant. The organizers shou

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread David Doshay
On 17, Jul 2008, at 1:02 PM, Rémi Coulom wrote: David Doshay wrote: Had I known that I might have participated. I thought I would have to ship my cluster, and with my previous traveling cluster I thought it would never get past the US airport security ... is was such a mass of wires and part

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Rémi Coulom
David Doshay wrote: Had I known that I might have participated. I thought I would have to ship my cluster, and with my previous traveling cluster I thought it would never get past the US airport security ... is was such a mass of wires and parts that it hardly even looked like a computer. Cheers

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread David Doshay
Had I known that I might have participated. I thought I would have to ship my cluster, and with my previous traveling cluster I thought it would never get past the US airport security ... is was such a mass of wires and parts that it hardly even looked like a computer. Cheers, David On 17, Jul

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread David Doshay
The programs would have to get strong enough that it would be hard to find some human willing to hide behind the network connection for the purpose of cheating. We could debate that level, but it would have to be at least into the pro ranks. Until then, I have to build traveling racks to hold my

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Don Dailey
Rémi Coulom wrote: Don Dailey wrote: I also feel for the Mac people and also people that have built programs that run on networks of workstations or other potential supercomputer programs that would not be able to participate. - Don Although I am one of the participants with access to non

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Rémi Coulom
David Doshay wrote: Someday computer Go will evolve enough to have enough trust for remote computing. But not today, unfortunately. Cheers, David The Computer Olympiad has allowed it, at least in 2006, 2007, and 2008. Rémi ___ computer-go mailing l

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Rémi Coulom
Don Dailey wrote: I also feel for the Mac people and also people that have built programs that run on networks of workstations or other potential supercomputer programs that would not be able to participate. - Don Although I am one of the participants with access to non-conventional comput

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Erik van der Werf
In what way would computer Go need to evolve? Erik On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM, David Doshay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someday computer Go will evolve enough to have enough trust for > remote computing. But not today, unfortunately. > > Cheers, > David > > > > On 17, Jul 2008, at 9:39 AM,

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Erik van der Werf wrote: I never said yes. At this point it is rather unlikely that Steenvreter will participate. Steenvreter only runs on linux. Since the machines in Leksand run windows and remote computation is not allowed

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread David Doshay
Someday computer Go will evolve enough to have enough trust for remote computing. But not today, unfortunately. Cheers, David On 17, Jul 2008, at 9:39 AM, Erik van der Werf wrote: ... simply using an ssh connection to my machine at home would have been *much* easier...

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That always irks me when I hear this kind of thing. The world is basically > windows "chauvinistic" and it's common to find little consideration given to > any other platform. > Did you know that you can create your own linu

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Don Dailey
Erik van der Werf wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steenvreter no yes Hi Nick, I never said yes. At this point it is rather unlikely that Steenvreter will participate. Steenvreter only runs on linux. Since the machines in L

RE: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread David Fotland
er-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden > > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php) > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th. On > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see > http://www.computer-go.i

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steenvreter no yes Hi Nick, I never said yes. At this point it is rather unlikely that Steenvreter will participate. Steenvreter only runs on linux. Since the machines in Leksand run windows and remote computa

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Jason House
Please list HouseBot for both board sizes. Just like Remi, this is subject to operator availability. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/ index.php) will be held in Leksand, Sweden f

Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Rémi Coulom
Nick Wedd wrote: CrazyStonepossible possible This is "yes" from my point of view. It all depends on the availability of an operator. What is the komi for the 9x9 tournament ? I would prefer 7.5 because it is also the komi of the Computer Olympiad. Thanks, Rémi ___

[computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

2008-07-17 Thread Nick Wedd
The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php) will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th. On Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/). Entry to this is free. If you would like to enter but c