Re: [computer-go] MC approach

2007-02-11 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:41:22PM -0600, Nick Apperson wrote: If it only did one playout you would be right, but imagine the following cases: case 1: White wins by .5 x 100, Black wins by .5 x 100 case 2: White wins by 100.5 x 91, Black wins by .5 x 109 the method that takes into account

Re: Re[4]: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-11 Thread Mark Boon
On 7-feb-07, at 02:20, Dmitry Kamenetsky wrote: I have been reading this list for nearly a year now and it is very discouraging to receive so much criticism for my first post. Don't be discouraged please. The big-mouths don't always represent what the majority thinks. The yahoo

Re: Re[4]: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-11 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 10:59 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: Don't be discouraged please. The big-mouths don't always represent what the majority thinks. The opinions expressed for not wanting to move to a forum were polite and thoughtful. Calling them big-mouths is uncalled for. It's also quite

Re: Re[4]: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-11 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 2/11/07, Jeff Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 10:59 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: Don't be discouraged please. The big-mouths don't always represent what the majority thinks. The opinions expressed for not wanting to move to a forum were polite and thoughtful. Calling

Re: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-11 Thread Jason House
Dmitry Kamenetsky wrote: I have been reading this list for nearly a year now and it is very discouraging to receive so much criticism for my first post. Sadly, you chose a topic that is close to the hearts of many. I like the style of this follow up post much more than the original in

Re: [computer-go] Zobrist hashing with easy transformation comparison

2007-02-11 Thread Antoine de Maricourt
Please do. I will put it on a web page. But I need some time. My job keeps me very busy right now. But I'm not sure I will post the statistical analysis (it was almost ten hand writen pages, and I'm not sure I still have them). Have You performed an empirical test for collisions? No,

Re: [computer-go] Serializing a very large object in Java

2007-02-11 Thread Roland Illig
Peter Drake wrote: out.writeObject(root); Storing the root node of the Monte Carlo search will get storeObject() called on all the siblings and children (assuming you are using an implementation similar to the one on http://senseis.xmp.net/?UCT. With 10.000 nodes, the depth of the tree is

Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo Go simulation

2007-02-11 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Alain's point, that knowledge can both help narrow the search to good moves and at the same time steer you away from the best move is absolutely true in SlugGo's case. I completely agree with that. However can we agree that we want a better player in a whole, and not only better in some

Re: [computer-go] Zobrist hashing with easy transformation comparison

2007-02-11 Thread Antoine de Maricourt
On 2/10/07, Ɓukasz Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/10/07, Antoine de Maricourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is strong interest, I can post the scheme. Please do. Since Antoine claims there is only on solution I might as well post mine ;-) mirroring: [abcdefgh] - [hgfedcba]