Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Rémi Coulom
Interesting, thanks. I had not found pseudocode.py. It is in that file: http://science.sciencemag.org/highwire/filestream/719481/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/aar6404_DataS1.zip The link is at the bottom of that page: http://science.sciencemag.org/content/362/6419/1140/tab-figures-data Rémi

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread daniel rich
More games in general. looks like more chess games than previously available(wasn't it previously just 100, now it is 210) and it looks like they addressed the flack they got from the chess community by moving the hash size from 1G to 32G for stockfish. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rémi Coulom

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
Remember, patents are a STRATEGIC mechanism as well as a legal mechanism. As soon as a patent is publically filed (for example, as utility, and following provisional), the text and claims in the patent immediately become prior art globally as of the original filing date REGARDLESS of whether the

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Dan Schmidt
I believe that the dependence of C(s) (formerly c_puct) on N(s) is new. The file pseudocode.py in the supplementary download sets c_base to 19652 and c_init to 1.25. Dan On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:27 PM Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > The new alphazero paper of DeepMind about chess and shogi has

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Dani
What exactly is the innovation that is patented ? Using short look-ahead searches for tuning evaluation functions ( in this case a neural network ) is not exactly new. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > The new alphazero paper of DeepMind about chess and shogi has been

[Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Rémi Coulom
Hi, The new alphazero paper of DeepMind about chess and shogi has been published in Science: https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-games-chess-shogi-and-go/ pdf: https://deepmind.com/documents/260/alphazero_preprint.pdf I tried to play "spot the difference" with their

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:28 PM Rémi Coulom wrote: > Also, the AlphaZero algorithm is patented: > https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2018215665 > So far it just looks like an application (and I don't think it will be be difficult to oppose, if you care about this) Erik

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread uurtamo
You're insane. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 4:13 PM Jim O'Flaherty Remember, patents are a STRATEGIC mechanism as well as a legal mechanism. > As soon as a patent is publically filed (for example, as utility, and > following provisional), the text and claims in the patent immediately > become prior art

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

2018-12-06 Thread 甲斐徳本
What's insane about it? To me, what Jim O'Flaherty stated is common sense in the field of patents, and any patent attorney would attest to that. If I may add, Jim's last sentence should read "Google's patent application" instead of "Google's patent". The difference is huge, and this may be in