RE: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea
this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? I think I've heard that valkyra ponders. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 11:04 +0200, Aloril wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:25 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 These lines are not needed. Not only are they not needed, they are a ***VERY BAD IDEA***. If KGS moves (as it did a few months ago) then they will make your client break. They are ***ONLY*** needed if you have to use a port forwarder or other trick to get to KGS. You know if you need them. If not, please, leave them out. So please, check your kgsGtp config file, if you have these lines, delete them, unless you *KNOW* that you need them. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea
Ah. Orego will have the ponder feature soon. I am busy to include pondering for FirstGo. Should be ready within a few days. Edward. On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote: ponder means to use the opponents time to think - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong wrote: hi, steve uurtamo wrote: this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? a quick question from a non-nativ english speaker: what does ponder mean here? thanks eph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _ Windows Live Mail: Kies je eigen kleur, indeling en contacten! http://imagine-windowslive.com/mail/launch/default.aspx?Locale=nl-nl ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
There seem to be other modes having to do with estimated kyu level and game pairing. I guess we need to ignore those for the tournament? Cheers, David On 18, Dec 2006, at 1:00 AM, William M. Shubert wrote: Oops, sorry for not notifying people here about the the change. I assumed that people would notice the change when they logged in for non-tournament use, but people who only use kgsGtp for tournaments would find out at the worst possible time. :-( It is a simple change. Just change tournament=t into mode=tournament as the message you get says. Before I had a bunch of flags, where you could only set one, so it made sense to just have a single my mode is... option. That is the reason for the change. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
William, One question - My opponent in the first round somehow got disconnected. A few minutes later botnoid was kicked from the game. What would happen if my opponent came back? Would botnoid automatically rejoin the game or would it now be botnoid that would lose on time? There was a feeling that this might not be handled correctly so I played it safe by writing a script to observe the log file and disconnect/reconnect if it was kicked due to an absent tournament opponent. - Don On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 01:00 -0800, William M. Shubert wrote: Oops, sorry for not notifying people here about the the change. I assumed that people would notice the change when they logged in for non-tournament use, but people who only use kgsGtp for tournaments would find out at the worst possible time. :-( It is a simple change. Just change tournament=t into mode=tournament as the message you get says. Before I had a bunch of flags, where you could only set one, so it made sense to just have a single my mode is... option. That is the reason for the change. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
Here is a config file that MAY work for the tournament - at least I don't get obvious errors -[ snip ]- engine=/home/drd/Games/KGS/botexp verbose=f server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 name=botnoid password=xx room=Computer Go mode=tournament talk=I am a mute. rules=chinese rules.boardSize=19 reconnect=t On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 08:20 +0900, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Aya's config file is like that, - engine=c:/aya/release/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp verbose=f server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 name=AyaBot password=xx room=Computer Go open=f tournament=t talk=Good evening. I am a bot and do not talk. rules=chinese rules.boardSize=9 rules.time=10:00 reconnect=t - Old server is server.host=goserver.igoweb.org And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the five rounds will occupy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With apologies for the short notice - I want to get this done before the end of the year, so as to at least partly keep to promises made earlier. You can regard it as a test slow tournament. The rules are, 19x19 boards, Chinese rules, 7.5 points komi. Apart from the long time limits, it will be like the previous KGS bot tournaments that I have organised. The entrance requirements will be slightly tighter than for the Open divisions of those, at my discretion - e.g., I don't want several slightly modified versions of GNU Go playing, but I will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo. The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp? id=255 The entry instructions, as usual, are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the five rounds will occupy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With apologies for the short notice - I want to get this done before the end of the year, so as to at least partly keep to promises made earlier. You can regard it as a test slow tournament. The rules are, 19x19 boards, Chinese rules, 7.5 points komi. Apart from the long time limits, it will be like the previous KGS bot tournaments that I have organised. The entrance requirements will be slightly tighter than for the Open divisions of those, at my discretion - e.g., I don't want several slightly modified versions of GNU Go playing, but I will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo. The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp? id=255 The entry instructions, as usual, are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Aya's config file is like that, - engine=c:/aya/release/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp verbose=f server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 name=AyaBot password=xx room=Computer Go open=f tournament=t talk=Good evening. I am a bot and do not talk. rules=chinese rules.boardSize=9 rules.time=10:00 reconnect=t - Old server is server.host=goserver.igoweb.org And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the five rounds will occupy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With apologies for the short notice - I want to get this done before the end of the year, so as to at least partly keep to promises made earlier. You can regard it as a test slow tournament. The rules are, 19x19 boards, Chinese rules, 7.5 points komi. Apart from the long time limits, it will be like the previous KGS bot tournaments that I have organised. The entrance requirements will be slightly tighter than for the Open divisions of those, at my discretion - e.g., I don't want several slightly modified versions of GNU Go playing, but I will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo. The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp? id=255 The entry instructions, as usual, are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
Thanks much! Cheers, David On 16, Dec 2006, at 3:20 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Aya's config file is like that, - engine=c:/aya/release/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp verbose=f server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 name=AyaBot password=xx room=Computer Go open=f tournament=t talk=Good evening. I am a bot and do not talk. rules=chinese rules.boardSize=9 rules.time=10:00 reconnect=t - Old server is server.host=goserver.igoweb.org And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the five rounds will occupy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With apologies for the short notice - I want to get this done before the end of the year, so as to at least partly keep to promises made earlier. You can regard it as a test slow tournament. The rules are, 19x19 boards, Chinese rules, 7.5 points komi. Apart from the long time limits, it will be like the previous KGS bot tournaments that I have organised. The entrance requirements will be slightly tighter than for the Open divisions of those, at my discretion - e.g., I don't want several slightly modified versions of GNU Go playing, but I will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo. The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp? id=255 The entry instructions, as usual, are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament
Oh ... does this work now? I thought that I remember that rather than tournament = [t/f] it was now something like mode = tournament. We were getting these kinds of errors one at a time. Cheers, David On 16, Dec 2006, at 3:20 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Aya's config file is like that, - engine=c:/aya/release/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp verbose=f server.host=goserver.gokgs.com server.port=2379 name=AyaBot password=xx room=Computer Go open=f tournament=t talk=Good evening. I am a bot and do not talk. rules=chinese rules.boardSize=9 rules.time=10:00 reconnect=t - Old server is server.host=goserver.igoweb.org And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the five rounds will occupy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With apologies for the short notice - I want to get this done before the end of the year, so as to at least partly keep to promises made earlier. You can regard it as a test slow tournament. The rules are, 19x19 boards, Chinese rules, 7.5 points komi. Apart from the long time limits, it will be like the previous KGS bot tournaments that I have organised. The entrance requirements will be slightly tighter than for the Open divisions of those, at my discretion - e.g., I don't want several slightly modified versions of GNU Go playing, but I will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo. The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp? id=255 The entry instructions, as usual, are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/