Valid points. But email comes from the cloud anyway, so it's tough to
argue that one. I mean, why delete an important email from the cloud?
Then you're relying on your own backup methods to preserve it.
Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which
systems were you having
I enjoyed Harvey Reid's rants, all valid points in my view. He
remarks on the money and time we all invest when we are coerced into
abandoning a perfectly function machine and technology for the latest
and greatest.
http://www.woodpecker.com/news/news08/newsletter_08p2.html
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In the thirty years I've used computers, I have never trusted them to
absolutely be there when I need them the most--local or remote.
Could it be that your 30-year perspective causes you to put more emphasis
on things as they once were and not enough emphasis on things as they are
today?
Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which
systems were you having so much trouble with? How long ago? Don't you
think they've improved things at all?
As much as I hate to agree with Tony, it also looks to me that you may be
clinging to old methods at a time when new
You need to find [Eudora] Ver 7xx, though--not Ver 8--which is really
Thunderbird I use Eudora, which has a blah-blah button to expose all
the headers in any email.
Is it really worth anyone's time to adopt a product that has been
abandoned by its vendor? At any time an OS upgrade or
It could be a talisman against the zombie horde. You can carry one but it
probably never needs to be used but you have it just in case. If the
zombies do attack you have done something to prevent them from harming your
network.
Looks like you did not understand the citation. I see you dragging
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Gmail using show details.
I comment:
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look. But I understand that Gmail is
webmail. I'm interested in having an e-mail client that downloads e-mail
to my
computer.
GMail supports both POP and IMAP so nothing prevents you from also
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I'm not a Vista user so I don't get so metaphysical
about how my computer operates. I don't accept maybes.
It either works or it doesn't work.
Anyone who cares to can re-read my message and satisfy themselves that this
is a complete misrepresentation of what I said. The maybes were there to
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It could be a talisman against the zombie horde. You can carry one but it
probably never needs to be used but you have it just in case. If the
zombies do attack you have done something to prevent them from harming
your
Anyone who cares to can re-read my message and satisfy themselves that this
is a complete misrepresentation of what I said. The maybes were there to
emphasize that neither you nor I know what happened, period.
MAYBE it is a complete misrepresentation of what you said.
I still think you are laying
Since you admitted you don't run Vista, do you base your opinions of it on
anything or just whim?
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MAYBE it is a complete misrepresentation of what you said.
I still think you are laying down a protective smokescreen to
recently, I switched from ATT dialup to cable internet much faster via
Comcast. As a result, my ATT email addresses are going, going, gone
...soon. I looked at yahoo and others and settled on gmail. I like it and
have setup outlookXP2002 to get my gmail... I also, set gmail to POP and to
erase
POP is really archaic, IMAP has greater functionality. Using IMAP,
there should be no need to erase the gmail when downloading. Seems to
contradict the principle of maintaining multiple copies.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:01 PM, RLeeSimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
recently, I switched from ATT
To actually answer your question about IMAP. It is a protocol that allows
synchronization of email across multiple clients, such as outlook, and the
web-based interface. I use IMAP on my PDA and my desktop at home.
although, I have to admit, I don't use it that much at home anymore. Once
you
I gotta love your never say die attitude, never let facts cloud your vision,
never let opinions of those who actually know what they are talking about
get in the way of your beliefs. Your steadfastness is amazing.
The ball has been in your court for quite a while now. Why won't you edit
your
Except the hassle of the extra steps involved. The speed of a modern
AJAX client (email in your browser) equals that of any local client,
so why bother setting up POP or IMAP? Better to learn the browser
version.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GMail supports
I think in general it's a mistake for most people to commit to writing
a regular column. You may be really creative the first few times out,
but that fades quickly. I mean, there really are no other points to
argue, as he doesn't propose anything new. It's just random thoughts,
probably better
Can one of our poor Vista unfortunates please run
the ping test in Safe Mode so we can rule out evil
third-party software's attempts to make Vista look bad?
There's no point to this. I already said that I pinged in -normal- mode and
it was fine. I did exactly what Tony said he did, and there
I _thought_ I was very specific. Friday afternoon I noticed ALL the
entries in the hosts file were pinging their sites, though they
_should_ all have been redirected to localhost. I removed the ::1 line
and they all started correctly pinging localhost. The next day I added
the ::1 line back and
Like someone said... local clients give you a fail-safe copy.
If you are depending on free service to store your email, you need to be
prepared to lose it or some of it. Over time it will happen. Using
Gmail with a local email client also pretty much reduces that chance to
0.
I see it as
I didn't start this thread, all my computers are running fine.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I gotta love your never say die attitude, never let facts cloud your
vision,
never let opinions of those who actually know what they are talking about
get in
Except the hassle of the extra steps involved. The speed of a modern
AJAX client (email in your browser) equals that of any local client,
so why bother setting up POP or IMAP? Better to learn the browser
version.
The reason is to get a local copy of the emails on your hard drive so you
can stop
There _are_ third party apps that will back up your gmail boxes. To a
degree, Google Desktop Search does this already. But I agree it would
be a nice built in feature archive all mailboxes locally every x
days.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason is
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The techno treadmill starts with our being much more interdependent than
we were 10 years ago. If you want to access the Internet you need to keep
your browser and media plug-ins up to date. As soon as you connect to the
'net you are sucked into malware
We currently have Verizon DSL (in my wife's name) and Verizon phone (in
my name). Our long distance is Sprint (tied to my wife's cell phone).
We live on a farm and our house is over a 1/4 mile back from the road,
thus I've been under the impression that cable is out not an option.
My wife is
Last time I checked, it made no economic sense to hook up Vonage on a
telephone line. I mean, if we had cut off our phone, our DSL would go
with it. Have you checked the price of keeping the DSL but unhooking
the landline? Assuming they even allow that?
I wouldn't assume anything about cable.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There _are_ third party apps that will back up your gmail boxes. To a
degree, Google Desktop Search does this already. But I agree it would
be a nice built in feature archive all mailboxes locally every x
days.
I set gmail to
There are only 6 of them (out of some 10,000), and
checking one shows it later in the list twice
Good lord, Spybot put ten thousand entries in your hosts file? Have you
noticed any effect on performance?
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Valid points. But email comes from the cloud anyway, so it's tough to
argue that one. I mean, why delete an important email from the cloud?
Then you're relying on your own backup methods to preserve it.
Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which
systems were you
In the thirty years I've used computers, I have never trusted them to
absolutely be there when I need them the most--local or remote.
Could it be that your 30-year perspective causes you to put more emphasis
on things as they once were and not enough emphasis on things as they are
today?
If
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