[CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Tony B
It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. Unless maybe we're talking about wired lines in the air? Even underwater lines lay on

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
Amen, Tony --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] a new word? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 11:45 AM It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've

[CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-05 Thread mike
We are considering moving to a new bank, one small reason to do this is because our bank doesn't support mint.com, there are other larger reasons for the move but don't involve the tech side of things. So...anyone have thoughts on mint.com specifically and or banks they use to interface with

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Andy Gallant
A factoid, FWIW - The Wireline Competition Bureau is part of the current structure of the FCC. According to its website (http://www.fcc.gov/wcb/): The Wireline Competition Bureau develops and recommends policy goals, objectives, programs and plans for the Commission on matters concerning

Re: [CGUYS] PC Magazine

2010-01-05 Thread tjpa
On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:39 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: Curious that no mention here of the passing of PC Magazine, crossed over after the January issue into digital only. As Mac-centric, I nonetheless value the opinions and information from a great publication, now left hardcopy after 20

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread tjpa
On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Tony B wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. Tech folks need more words that non-tech folks because they need to make precise distinctions. E.g. Eskimos have dozens of words for what we just call

Re: [CGUYS] Windows God Mode

2010-01-05 Thread tjpa
On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Tony B wrote: It works, but oddly, it seems particularly useless. Windows 7? Yes indeed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:45 AM -0500 1/5/10, Tony B wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. Unless maybe we're talking about wired lines

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-05 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
Now that MINT is part of Intuit, I would presume more banks will be supporting the program... Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-05 Thread tjpa
On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: Now that MINT is part of Intuit, I would presume more banks will be supporting the program... And fewer of us may be interested in signing up with mint.com. I was about to check them out and that news stopped me dead in my

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-05 Thread mike
Right. I was afraid I'd give the impression I was switching JUST for mint, but I'm not. I was trying to simply keep it in line with our subject matter in that the two main reasons I'm switching are not directly related to what we try to discuss here. I've never used Mint as my credit union

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Dunford
It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. Tech folks need more words that non-tech folks because they need to make precise distinctions. E.g. Eskimos have dozens of words for what we just call snow. You're right in general, but Eskimos

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Tom, that is unmitigated, but often-perpetuated, BS. Please list some of these extra words for snow. Also, tech-folks do not need extra words, unless they mean different things that we need to be able to differentiate to be clear. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Tech folks

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Chris, thanks for a more informative response. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- You're right in general, but Eskimos having many words for snow is something of a myth. The Eskimo languages are polysynthetic, which means, more or less, that multiple words are combined into one

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
wireline n: a slender, rodlike or threadlike piece of metal usually small in diameter, that is used for lowering special tools (such as logging sondes, perforating guns, and so forth) into the well. Also called slick line. Ellen H who once worked in the oil patch - Original Message -

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread tjpa
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Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. In general usage wireline is equivalent to landline or POTS. There are subtle

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-05 Thread MrMike6by9
A friend of mine used Mint for a bit but grew to hate it. He had hoped to eliminate the need for posting receipts to Quicken (or a similar) application but complained that they often took days to post transactions or failed to include details like the vendor names for debit transactions. As a

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread MrMike6by9
That was similar to my reaction the first time I heard someone use the term soft copy Subject: a new word? It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the

[CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more accurately into the Cellphone Guys show. They really like to get heavily into discussion of all the latest cell phones. almost at times to the

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Tony B
This actually makes a degree of sense. I never really thought of what to call FIOS. Obviously we can't call it wireless, even though it really has no wires. We can't call it a landline because it has no wires. And now we can't call it wireline because it has no wires. Wait. I'm still confused. PS

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Try calling it fiber optic communications. Stewart At 09:56 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: This actually makes a degree of sense. I never really thought of what to call FIOS. Obviously we can't call it wireless, even though it really has no wires. We can't call it a landline because it has no wires.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
In Tom's absence, that monthly show has devolved into comfort food wallpaper.  More about smooth talk than about true help.  But that's what the station admin and public want, I listen only with half an ear... --- On Tue, 1/5/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From:

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-05 Thread One Man
When the power goes out, you have no phone, like during a lightning storm, very common here in Texass.  Hence the reason we no longer use earthlink phone, vonage phone, timewarner phone, skype phone, etc.  Of course your cell will work if it's charged :)  All of these computer based phones are

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more accurately into the Cellphone Guys show. They really Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is indeed possible. Each device evolves to a point where it is superceded by another device. Plus circumstances dictate changes. Stewart At 10:17 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem to spend freakish amounts of time talking all things cell phone. Is it

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Computing has changed from an activity done while stationary to mobile computing. Devices have had to evolve. 15 years ago email was emerging. Today it has become common place. Just read an article today of ten items/devices you might not need this year. Landline phone was listed, along

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well, they could talk about technologies that aren't widely available to the general public. I'd be happy to discuss high bandwidth solutions. That's not exactly their mission, though. It's a fact that they aren't going to discuss what I offer. It's way too expensive for anyone but big

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Constance Warner
We have a bad habit, in this country, of writing off old technologies as soon as something a little more advanced has been adopted by a small percentage of the American public. And when a larger percentage of the population has started to use the new technology, we forget that the older