Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-26 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:47 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Yes, and I think they will. I just do not see them abandoning OSX for iOS. In comparison iOS is a much smaller and easier to support product. Apple would have no need to abandon OSX and strategically it would lose them a lot of

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:15 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: I do not agree. There are of course those Apple-hating IT types who want to maintain their bloated staffs. But the Apple advantage will be so obvious that normally silent business managers will start to question the bad judgement

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-25 Thread TJPA
Is is all a matter of volume. M$ is pounding my computer with a constant barrage of security updates. It is frequent and the number of updates I may get in a day is often larger than I wish to count. These are security updates, not giving me any new features. In contrast Apple will go for

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-25 Thread TJPA
Yes, and I think they will. I just do not see them abandoning OSX for iOS. In comparison iOS is a much smaller and easier to support product. Apple would have no need to abandon OSX and strategically it would lose them a lot of credibility. They need to have a real OS on some of their hardware.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-25 Thread mike
Again, you view security updates from Apple as 'features'. Nice for you. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Is is all a matter of volume. M$ is pounding my computer with a constant barrage of security updates. It is frequent and the number of updates I may get in a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread mike
I could perhaps see Apple using iOS as an instant on option to check email etc and then OS X for full duty on laptops. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:40 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Not likely, though it may become available as an option. I can see power-mad IT types going for it as a way to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:40 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Not likely, though it may become available as an option. I think it is highly likely. It is my personal belief, bolstered by recent Apple Corp. movement, that Apple is going in the direction of regarding computers, for marketing

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread tjpa
On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Apple will cede the professional market to Windows (why not?) and focus on computing devices of all sorts that offer more of an everyperson experience as opposed to a niche market which has been their tradition for the most part. This is

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread mike
I think you hit the wrong 'I hate MS', 'I hate MS users', button script with this one. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:20 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is just the Apple haters bringing out their Apple is going out of business drums. When the iPod was so very successful a few years ago they

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Apple will cede the professional market to Windows (why not?) and focus on computing devices of all sorts that offer more of an everyperson experience as opposed to a niche

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread mike
You are an Apple hater cause Tom says so...don't disagree with the Tom. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: What I wrote was my personal opinion. I was not parroting what others have said in the paragraph that you quoted. I am not an Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:38 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You are an Apple hater cause Tom says so...don't disagree with the Tom. I did not think that he was calling me an Apple hater. I think he was referring to some Apple developers who are saying that Apple may be on the verge of

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread TJPA
Correct, I wasn't, but you have just experienced another case of the same phenomena. Strange assertions designed to create discord. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I did not think that he was calling me an Apple hater.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread TJPA
Actually, what iOS could do is sweep the business market. A locked down system is just what most IT managers want. A much larger iPad with a wireless keyboard may be the business computer of the future. After getting used to using an iPad it is somewhat frustrating to use an old fashioned

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread mike
Not so locked down, with iOS 4, Apple released over 60 security updates, most to the web browser, many of which allowed remote execution of code...as in what allows remote users to take over the device. Now users of the first iphone and first gen touch wait to see if they will get the security

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Correct, I wasn't, but you have just experienced another case of the same phenomena. Strange assertions designed to create discord. I do not think that suppositions about what Apple Corp. may do in the future are indicative of

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread David K Watson
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread David K Watson
That would be a great idea. I've read about fast boot computers that would launch a minimal version of Linux for basic use while WIndows continues to launch in the background. I don't know if anyone ever got past the concept phase into a commercial product though. You'd think that it

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread TJPA
Somehow in Mike's twisted logic, making improvements is a bad thing. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Not so locked down, with iOS 4, Apple released over 60 security updates, *

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread TJPA
I do not agree. There are of course those Apple-hating IT types who want to maintain their bloated staffs. But the Apple advantage will be so obvious that normally silent business managers will start to question the bad judgement of those misguided IT types. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-24 Thread mike
Security updates via MS = idiot programmers Security updates via Apple = angelic programmers improving experience On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:10 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Somehow in Mike's twisted logic, making improvements is a bad thing. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:21 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

2010-06-23 Thread TJPA
Not likely, though it may become available as an option. I can see power-mad IT types going for it as a way to totally control what is on the machine. IOS does not need the horsepower of a pro-line machine so I expect to see it on very different hardware. I am certainly impressed by the