Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread mike
They are pushing it out as an update, an appropriate computer would be one that already has the software on it and requires an update. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Tony B wrote: Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:36 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: They are pushing it out as an update, an appropriate computer would be one that already has the software on it and requires an update. The dialog box does contain the word update. One could assume that is intended to indicate

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Cannon
Would you stamp your feet if everytime you walked into Safeway with an empty shopping and Safeway filled it with Pepsi or Coke and left you with the task of unloading the cart? The proper method would be to leave the box unchecked by default since it is not an update but rather an install.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread b_s-wilk
Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt, they would certainly be pilloried. And probably sued by the EU. Where's the outrage here? I'm outraged that some Windows programs update without informing users! And our HP notebook came with dozens of undocumented programs installed, not even a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt, they would certainly be pilloried. And probably sued by the EU. Where's the outrage here? I'm outraged that some Windows programs update without informing users! And our HP

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread mike
Let's be clear. The complaint wasn't about updating software currently on your system, it was about trying to install programs that you do not have and are completely unrelated to what you do have already installed. I've never owned a pc built by HP or Dell or anyone else, I've always built my

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread db
Of b_s-wilk Sent: 09/29/2009 10:37 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt, they would certainly be pilloried. And probably sued by the EU. Where's the outrage here? I'm

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread b_s-wilk
Are you saying the HP you owned would install NEW software you did not already have installed or was updating software on your system already? Also, there is a very easy solution to these so called undocumented programs...hit the start button. The Windows PCs don't have a list of preinstalled

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread David K Watson
Late to the party here, but: First of all, it's a tiny little application, and is practically an iTunes plugin. Future versions of iTunes will likely have it built in and you'd never notice it unless you needed it. Do you complain this much every time Firefox updates itself unnecessarily?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Let's be clear. The complaint wasn't about updating software currently on your system, it was about trying to install programs that you do not have and are completely unrelated to what you do have already installed. I've never

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread Tony B
No, for both those examples I *want* updates to install with virtually no user interaction. Ditto Windows itself. And, for internet-facing machines, Quicktime also, but this is where the problem lies. QT doesn't just quietly keep itself updated. Instead, it uses this Apple updater which gets in

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Agreed every time I have Itunes update I have to turn off the Itunes software that interfaces with MP3 players. No option to not turn them off, I have to go into MSconfig and turn them off. Almost as bad as realplayer. Stewart At 02:41 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote: No, for both those examples I

[CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-28 Thread Tony B
Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt, they would certainly be pilloried. And probably sued by the EU. Where's the outrage here? I first noticed this last week on a client machine. I simply canceled it, but worried that when it came back the less savvy user at that machine might install

Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes unwanted enterprise tool to Windows users

2009-09-28 Thread t.piwowar
On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Tony B wrote: Yet again. If this were MS pulling this stunt, they would certainly be pilloried. And probably sued by the EU. Where's the outrage here? You heard about it on Glenn Beck? Apple is not pushing anything on anybody. It is providing a list of currently