Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-10 Thread Brian Jones
Constance, I have worked with Excel for two decades, and I can tell you that it will easily handle 5000 records on a STABLE machine. But I don't think the conversion is a good idea because of experiences I have had with 'systems' built on top of Excel Spreadsheets, Access DB, and MS Word.

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-09 Thread Paul Meyer
Can't excel just be setup as the interface to the database which would allow the excel-centric users to be happy without stomping on the structure. --- Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think before I let them flatten it I'd consider online solutions too. Does Google offer a real

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
Can't excel just be setup as the interface to the database which would allow the excel-centric users to be happy without stomping on the structure. Excel can import, but read only access may not suffice. They could get read-write access by simply accessing the database directly via a web

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
One database has 18 fields, the other 24; the fields are of different types, and all the fields are fully searchable, both singly and in combination with other fields. There are multiple layouts... My co-workers think that an Excel spreadsheet--with four fields--is just fine to keep track of the

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think before I let them flatten it I'd consider online solutions too. Does Google offer a real database app now? Current item of interest is blist.com which provides a happy Flash interface to PostgreSQL. * == QUICK

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-07 Thread Tony B
I think it's a given that converting to Excel format will flatten the heck out of this db. In a way that might require custom coding to recover from. But maybe they just want to use Excel for output/conversion to web format? Nothing wrong with that, as long as the db is intact. Access should be

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-07 Thread Constance Warner
, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel? For nine years, I've been working with two FileMaker Pro databases that keep track of several thousand documents (including titles, descriptions, categories, authors, etc.). They've been virtually

[CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Constance Warner
For nine years, I've been working with two FileMaker Pro databases that keep track of several thousand documents (including titles, descriptions, categories, authors, etc.). They've been virtually crash-proof and easy to modify. There are nearly 5,000 records (on separate pages) in these

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Matthew Taylor
You can access / modify the DB one record at a time vs. all or nothing with a spreadsheet. You can create much more useful / easy queries with the DB than with a spreadsheet. Because if they really are that stupid you won't still be working there to help them out, having fled to a

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Fred Holmes
Not everyone is willing to learn how to drive a stick shift. Fred Holmes At 03:44 PM 2/6/2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: You can access / modify the DB one record at a time vs. all or nothing with a spreadsheet. You can create much more useful / easy queries with the DB than with a spreadsheet.

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Matthew Taylor
But everyone who might someday need to drive one in an emergency should know how. To further beat the analogy into the ground, if you can't drive a stick shift, you can't play with the really fun toys. Back to the subject, how is keeping a database IN a database driving a stick shift?

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Constance Warner
Many thanks for the talking points! And as for #3-- Because if they really are that stupid you won't still be working there to help them out, having fled to a better, more sane workplace? ;^) That one struck a chord! Actually, I AM looking for a better, more sane workplace, if anyone knows

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Constance Warner
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel? Does Filemaker Pro allow for 1) exporting the database to Excel, and 2) updating the database from Excel? A good one certainly would. Do the others just read your database, or do they post to it as well? I would think that Excel

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Fred Holmes
At 04:37 PM 2/6/2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: Back to the subject, how is keeping a database IN a database driving a stick shift? The database interface is more difficult to set up and use, although I guess the wizards should be pretty good by now. spreadsheet column headings for the fields

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Fred Holmes
Is this about the database for the Online Buyers Guide that I find on the PRIMA web site (http://www.primacentral.org/), but which is accessible to members only? Or is it something that is for internal use only? Fred Holmes

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Ballinger
The Public Risk Management Association wants to use Excel as a database? Makes you want to say, Hmmm... g cb On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Constance Warner wrote: And does anyone else have any talking points on why it's a bad idea to replace a perfectly reliable, crash-proof database with

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Fred Holmes
, February 06, 2008 5:48 PM To: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List Cc: Constance Warner Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel? Is this about the database for the Online Buyers Guide that I find on the PRIMA web site (http://www.primacentral.org/), but which is accessible to members only

Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
For nine years, I've been working with two FileMaker Pro databases that keep track of several thousand documents (including titles, descriptions, categories, authors, etc.). They've been virtually crash-proof and easy to modify. There are nearly 5,000 records (on separate pages) in these