On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Tony B wrote:
>
> Word definitions change, but generally "the cloud" refers to a bunch
> of computers connected via network where your data is kept. It also
> implies that there's no way of finding a specific copy of your data on
> one hard drive; you really don't
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:
> The cloud means you really don't know where it is. If your data is anywhere
> nebulous it is in the cloud. If you can't tell me where the drive is
> physically located- it is in the cloud. There is very little I could tell
> where the
I suppose, if I paid them enough. It's certainly *possible*, if
somewhat unlikely. Unlike driving over to Carbonite and trying to take
a hard drive with your backup on it.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM, mike wrote:
> So your host will let you walk into their server room and physically remove
>
The cloud means you really don't know where it is. If your data is anywhere
nebulous it is in the cloud. If you can't tell me where the drive is
physically located- it is in the cloud. There is very little I could tell
where the server is and I mostly don't care where it is.
It doesn't matter
So your host will let you walk into their server room and physically remove
the HD?
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Tony B wrote:
> First, remember I pointed out I'm not completely sure if gmail via the
> web is cloud-stored or not. Certainly if you use POP with gmail it's
> not cloud.
>
> But n
First, remember I pointed out I'm not completely sure if gmail via the
web is cloud-stored or not. Certainly if you use POP with gmail it's
not cloud.
But now I think we're all on the same page. Your revised definition
below is in line with my own. I could drive to my host and physically
take the
Depends. If it is data only you are supposed to have access to, but
that is controlled by another entity (administration server etc.)
that could qualify as cloud.
I am presently using Drop Box (Thanks guys for sharing that place)
and that is definitely cloud even though it appears on my deskt
Seems a distinction without a difference. Or at very list the splitting of
very fine hairs. How is it your website is not in the cloud but gmail is?
What is the difference? I can download an app that basically allows me to
FTP files to my gmail account...when I run this app does that mean it is
No, data on a remote server is definitely *not* in a cloud. I mean, my
website is on a remote server which is on a shared host so I don't
administer the server. But if I FTP a file to it, I haven't put the
file in a cloud.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Stewart Marshall
wrote:
> In that it is a
No, it most certainly is not. Thanks for helping to clarify.
Word definitions change, but generally "the cloud" refers to a bunch
of computers connected via network where your data is kept. It also
implies that there's no way of finding a specific copy of your data on
one hard drive; you really do
In that it is a remote server administrated by someone other than you yes.
Stewart
At 01:50 PM 12/9/2009, you wrote:
Okay. However, Classmates.com, being accessible by users only by
way of the internet is, in fact, in and of the "cloud," is it not? I
stand ready to be corrected.
Steve
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Tony B wrote:
> Anyway, after the thread got bumped for a few days I just thought I
> would comment on the subject header, and point out that we really
> don't know if classmates.com *uses* cloud storage.
Okay. However, Classmates.com, being accessible by users
No. You have misinterpreted my point completely.
I am unfamiliar with what was lost because as soon as I saw it was a
question about classmates.com I knew I know nothing about them so I
stopped reading. Would that more people on this list did the same!
Anyway, after the thread got bumped for a fe
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Tony B wrote:
> This is a very misleading subject line, as we have no evidence or
> indication that this data was stored in a cloud. Thus we also have no
> evidence it was a failure of cloud storage that caused information
> loss.
>
> I just worry a couple of the
It is in realty loosing your data to a data aggregator.
Classmates.com gets data in from every classmate that registers and
then aggregates that date for everyone to see.
They are a for profit company wanting you to register and pay
them money for all this stuff to be seen.
The cloud is mo
This is a very misleading subject line, as we have no evidence or
indication that this data was stored in a cloud. Thus we also have no
evidence it was a failure of cloud storage that caused information
loss.
I just worry a couple of the luddites on the list will actually
reference this event in t
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