Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-20 Thread Chris Dunford
To call that a positive review is delusional. Delusional?? I'll tell you what's delusional: saying that a review containing these phrases is not a positive review: a gorgeous multitouch screen, feels expensive and solid in the hand, fluid, beautiful and incredibly responsive, bright, sharp

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-18 Thread t.piwowar
On Sep 18, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Saying that this isn't a positive review, now that is truly delusional. It's practically psychotic. It is not a positive review. It cites many positive features, but concludes that these are insufficient. That is not a positive conclusion.

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
It is not a positive review. It cites many positive features, but concludes that these are insufficient. That is not a positive conclusion. You're dreaming. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-18 Thread mike
To be clear the conclusion was: *It’s an outdated joke; the Zune HD player isn’t perfect, but it’s every bit as joyful, polished and satisfying as its rival. The question is whether Microsoft will stick it out long enough to close the catalog gap, the ecosystem gap and the image gap.* None of

[CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread t.piwowar
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?8dpc Zune’s reputation as the player for weirdos and losers. Among the under-25 set, “Zune” is a punch line Wow! * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread Chris Dunford
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?8dpc Zune's reputation as the player for weirdos and losers. Among the under-25 set, Zune is a punch line Wow! Boy, you really had to hunt for something negative in that review, didn't you? How strange that you didn't

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Chris, I think Tom's point is that mighty M$ has a major marketing failure on their hands. David Pogue also said: All right, then: so why sympathy? Because, after three years, hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising, and, yes, a lot of real innovation, the Zune has managed to claim a

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread katan
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:15:22 -0400, t.piwowar wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?8dpc Zune’s reputation as the player for weirdos and losers. Among the under-25 set, “Zune” is a punch line Wow! Wow! is right. You pick out the single most damning

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread MrMike6by9
Some interesting things are heard about the Zune in this week's MacBreak Weekly Podcast #158: They Don't Have That in the US. The comments begin around 00:40 in and go for about 10-15 minutes. YMMV - - - No man is exempt from saying silly things; the mischief is to say them deliberately. -

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?8dpc Zune's reputation as the player for weirdos and losers. Among the under-25 set, Zune is a punch line Wow! Boy, you really had to hunt for something negative in that review, didn't you? How strange

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Sep 17, 2009, at 6:42 AM Sep 17, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: I think Tom's point is that mighty M$ has a major marketing failure on their hands. David Pogue also said: All right, then: so why sympathy? Thank you Mark, that is precisely my point. Equally remarkable is the inability of

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread David K Watson
From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Wow! is right. You pick out the single most damning line in a generally positive review and hold it up as proof that the Zune Sucks. The only thing wrong with this statement is that the review isn't generally positive, it's overwhelmingly positive.

Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread t.piwowar
On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:18 PM, David K Watson wrote: Myself, I'd say generally positive is a better description. By most objective standards, to be considered overwhelmingly positive a review would have to be very strong on its positives and contain a very small number of very minor negatives.