Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Check New egg you can search by CPU etc. YOU can also read reviews of teh MB's. Another place to look is Toms Hardware. An 01 is extremely dated MB. Mine was just bought this year and I have a tendency to buy about a year old stuff so mine is probably vintage 08. Stewart At 12:15 AM

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-17 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/17/2009 9:44 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Check New egg you can search by CPU etc. YOU can also read reviews of teh MB's. Another place to look is Toms Hardware. An 01 is extremely dated MB. Mine was just bought this year and I have a tendency to buy about a year old stuff so mine

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-17 Thread mike
Tech has changed a lot in those few years. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Check New egg you can search by CPU etc. YOU can also read reviews of teh MB's. Another place to look is Toms Hardware. An 01 is extremely dated MB. Mine was

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: This sounds like someone who had a nightmare experience once and isn't going to allow it to happen again. I don't want to put words in Christopher's mouth...just what I was thinking. Same reason I won't buy Hitachi drives even if they are half the price and

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 9:37 AM, Reid Katan wrote: Sheesh. And I thought my 8-bay was big. (-: Is ATX still the popular form factor? Last time I built a computer, it was--still is--a P3 450. It's been a while. I thought ATX was still the standard form factor.

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Stewart Marshall
Intel came up with a BTX form factor. Stewart At 09:34 AM 12/16/2009, you wrote: On 12/16/2009 9:37 AM, Reid Katan wrote: Sheesh. And I thought my 8-bay was big. (-: Is ATX still the popular form factor? Last time I built a computer, it was--still is--a P3 450. It's been a while. I

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Tony B
Well, as you've seen by now this isn't the case. The OP clings to the belief that he needs all these PCI slots because he thinks the onboard equivalents don't work as well. I'm not sure where he got that idea, but I doubt we'll be changing his mind in our lifetimes. Since the only card he would

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread tjpa
On Dec 16, 2009, at 1:39 AM, Christopher Range wrote: I didn't have a nightmare experience that necessitates having that many slots. Just the thought of having that much dependence on the motherboard, when the functions of a peripheral card is far better than the sub-standard garbage on the

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Tony B
A memory I'd successfully blocked out until now. I got my monstrosity late one Saturday night as it was the only case they had with the brand new ATX form. Lots of space to play around inside, but with a menacing aspect due to its sheer size. Anyway, it too saw the dump a couple years ago. On

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread mike
It used to be if you wanted good sound you got an add on card, that myth lasted longer because of companies who made these cards wanting to stay in business. I know serious audiophiles say to move the sound card away from the rig..as in external connected via toslink. I've used the sound on the

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 10:57 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Intel came up with a BTX form factor. Stewart You are right. I just crashed head first into 'duh'. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 11:12 AM, Tony B wrote: Well, as you've seen by now this isn't the case. The OP clings to the belief that he needs all these PCI slots because he thinks the onboard equivalents don't work as well. I'm not sure where he got that idea, but I doubt we'll be changing his mind in our

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 2:13 PM, Tony B wrote: A memory I'd successfully blocked out until now. I got my monstrosity late one Saturday night as it was the only case they had with the brand new ATX form. Lots of space to play around inside, but with a menacing aspect due to its sheer size. Anyway, it too

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 1:58 PM, tjpa wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 1:39 AM, Christopher Range wrote: I didn't have a nightmare experience that necessitates having that many slots. Just the thought of having that much dependence on the motherboard, when the functions of a peripheral card is far better

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread mike
Hitachi was to me :) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: Hitachi is a moot point, in that, I am not debating the quality of their drives. So I take your word for it. * **

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread mike
That's not sub standard, you just have old. There are a lot of nice mobos with built in 5.1 surround...digital audio out..etc etc, I have one, it's got fantastic sound. They carry the same chipsets the cards you buy. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote:

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
How old is that MB? The last MB I bought had HDMI Video, USB 2.0 and Firewire built onto the Motherboard. The audio is not half bad. (Oh Also 10/100/1000 ethernet) I cant remember but I think it had Nvidia chip set for Video. I don't game so not a big deal, but I still think it was 128 MB

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Unless you are looking at 200-300 sound cards. I have seen extreme gamers put more into peripheral sound cards and video cards than into the MB/Memory/Harddrive setup. Remember PT Barnum's axiom there is a sucker born every minute. They make the mistake and think price=quality and usability.

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-16 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/16/2009 11:37 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: How old is that MB? Sept.'01 The last MB I bought had HDMI Video, USB 2.0 and Firewire built onto the Motherboard. The audio is not half bad. (Oh Also 10/100/1000 ethernet) It doesn't have the capability of HDMI Video. The USB on

[CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-15 Thread Tony B
What the heck are you talking about? You already said you aren't a gamer, so you don't need good video hardware; onboard video will more than suffice for business apps. Audio? Creative hasn't upgraded their cards in ages, and you said you have an old Audigy. How often do you replace audio cards?

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-15 Thread mike
This sounds like someone who had a nightmare experience once and isn't going to allow it to happen again. I don't want to put words in Christopher's mouth...just what I was thinking. Same reason I won't buy Hitachi drives even if they are half the price and twice the warranty. On Tue, Dec 15,

Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots???

2009-12-15 Thread Christopher Range
that many slots.. - Original Message - From: mike xha...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:20:14 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [CGUYS] need lots of PCI slots??? This sounds like someone who had a nightmare experience once