Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Fernando
You need to run a VPN on top of the wireless connection. This will give you a secure tunnel from your computer through to the VPN server. See a good tutorial at www.cites.uiuc.edu/vpn/security.html The above web site has a couple of nice graphics showing what part of the communication stream

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Fernando
use 'https' for gmail. if no vpn, but use https for gmail - wouldn't the wireless signal for a public connection still be in the clear transmitting your username and password? No. https uses SSL. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer) It uses public/private keys to make an

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think, a service like this will give you a false sense of security since you will be using this VPN tunnel to get to, in this case, hotspotvpn.com's network, but traffic beyond that is unencrypted and on regular the internet. No, it provides the security that was asked for. This use of a VPN

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
VPN is of course the answer, if you really MUST perform 'sensitive' tasks from unsecured networks. But personally, I can hold off doing my online banking until I get home. Normal websurfing and gmail I just don't worry about. Though I _do_ always use 'https' for gmail. When Tony and I agree on

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-30 Thread Tony B
I think we tend to agree on most things. At least, I can't recall the last time we actually had a *disagreement*. Sometimes you do go off on tangents though. Now let's argue about top posting! :) On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VPN is of course the answer,

[CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Jones
sure appreciate someone explaining this to me... trying to figure a way to make a public wireless connection secure for checking email, logging in to sensitive sites etc. seems like the nature of public wireless is that all is transmitted in the clear. would be great to be able to use wpa,

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Many places set up security though it be lite to keep people from outside not being able to log onto the network. There are routers that allow two sides a public and a private side for situations like this. Stewart At 05:40 PM 8/29/2008, you wrote: sure appreciate someone explaining this

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Jones
PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 29, 2008 04:06 pm Subject: Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless Many places set up security though it be lite to keep people from outside not being able to log onto the network. There are routers that allow two sides a public and a private side for situations like

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
secure to the site I visit (or email) if the wireless connection is only public without any encryption available? From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 29, 2008 04:06 pm Subject: Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless Many places set up security though

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
trying to figure a way to make a public wireless connection secure for checking email, logging in to sensitive sites etc. You need to run a VPN on top of the wireless connection. This will give you a secure tunnel from your computer through to the VPN server. See a good tutorial at

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Tony B
VPN is of course the answer, if you really MUST perform 'sensitive' tasks from unsecured networks. But personally, I can hold off doing my online banking until I get home. Normal websurfing and gmail I just don't worry about. Though I _do_ always use 'https' for gmail. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Jones
04:44 pm Subject: Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless VPN is of course the answer, if you really MUST perform 'sensitive' tasks from unsecured networks. But personally, I can hold off doing my online banking until I get home. Normal websurfing and gmail I just don't worry about. Though I

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread mike
for gmail - wouldn't the wireless signal for a public connection still be in the clear transmitting your username and password? thank you very much everyone for the replies From: Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 29, 2008 04:44 pm Subject: Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

Re: [CGUYS] security on public wireless

2008-08-29 Thread Tony B
Well, that answers that question. All gmail users should note there's a new option on the Settings page: Always use https. I'll quote: LEO: You can protect it by scrambling it. And you mentioned VPN and other techniques. STEVE: Well, yeah. I had a person who wrote in asking, if they were on