Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:46 PM -0400 4/23/09, Eric S. Sande wrote: To get an idea of the league these guys are playing in check out: Cary SLP-05, US $7.5K. Audio Research LS-17, US $4K. Audio Research LS-26, US $6K. And these are just _preamps_, for crying out loud. Of course these are all balanced, US made,

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: A similar question was asked of Paul Kliptsch who made only high end speakers. (Came out with a bookshelf model named heresy) Because that is where the market is. A portion of the market. If Apple wants

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Scott McClure
When I was a kid, I can the vacuum tube tester at the local Radio Shack. It was as self-service machine with a bunch of tube sockets on the top. My parents had an old David Bogen pre-amp with tubes (as part of a mono system) and I used to find it frustrating to wait for the thing to warm up.

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread mike
Would it be possible for him to purchase an inexpensive monitor and keyboard/mouse combo for his laptop. Couple hundered bux could help him take care of some of that wear and tear he is getting from the cramped keyboard/monitor of the laptop. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
My company provides most employees with laptops. We are pressed to take them home, 'tho I usually leave mine behind unless I need to take it home. We all attach one or two LCD screens in the office. Tell your brother to buy a monitor for his laptop, he should be able to find one from HP or Dell

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread mike
That doesn't help his situation..has he actually checked to see if he can put a monitor on his desk? We are talking almost zero foot print...keyboard mouse. It could increase his well being and productivity. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:13 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
But then it would likely be too expensive and the Lauren's and G's wouldn't buy it. Only snobs would buy it. Is there some middle ground between snobs and destitute? I'll admit that there are people so poor that they have to buy computers like the one Lauren bought, but is that representative

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not every company has the extra cash necessary to operate this way. Providing poor hardware to staff lowers staff productivity and increases error rates. It makes staff tireder and less likely to get innovative insights. The poor hardware is probably losing the company 30 to 40 percent of each

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Would it be possible for him to purchase an inexpensive monitor and keyboard/mouse combo for his laptop. Couple hundered bux could help him take care of some of that wear and tear he is getting from the cramped keyboard/monitor of the laptop. Apple laptops will drive a large, wide-screen

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Yes, but the middle ground appears to be named cheap. Consider the number of people with high levels of debt and then the shrinking number of jobs; personal computer buying appears to be at least 75% el-cheapo. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Is there some middle ground

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Most graphic cards can run at least a moderately-large monitor. The days when few PC laptops can do this are long-gone. Apple includes a high-end graphics card in all but the low-end, but low-end cards will drive a decent sized monitor. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Apple

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: My company provides most employees with laptops.  We are pressed to take them home, 'tho I usually leave mine behind unless I need to take it home.  We all attach one or two LCD screens in the office.  Tell

[CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yes, but the middle ground appears to be named cheap. Consider the number of people with high levels of debt and then the shrinking number of jobs; personal computer buying appears to be at least 75% el-cheapo. And in the news... Microsoft profits sink 32 percent. Apple profits rise 15

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Shoulda, woulda, coulda ... Life is too short. If spending $50 to $100 dollars on something the company should have provided makes my day less than grueling, I won't hesitate. I make a decent salary, so am not talking about spending money I don't have. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original

Re: [CGUYS] OT: Comcast Cable HD

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Hooking up the conversion box was a snap once the antenna was built. We are getting many channels through the HD box. Sadly, though, WETA is not one of them. It is interesting to see what's coming over the air, though. This may inspire us to investigate a bit more -- maybe even dump

Re: [CGUYS] Video formats for Final Cut

2009-04-24 Thread b_s-wilk
My only concern was the availability of the format. Istockphoto, for example, looks like a lot of their stuff is .mov. We're going to be drawing on a lot of pre-recorded clips. It's fine to use .mov files, but since you use a Mac, iMovie will be faster and easier than FCP. Uncompressed

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Shoulda, woulda, coulda ... Life is too short. If spending $50 to $100 dollars on something the company should have provided makes my day less than grueling, I won't hesitate. Won't that be violating the company policy to be unproductive?

Re: [CGUYS] CLI

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Who needs all this computer forensics -- just a few minutes of waterboarding will tell us all we need to know. The government needs to be more efficient. The bigger question is to whether the email was illegal in the first place and how poorly reasoned the search warrant application was. He

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Hey even those cheap throw away crappy netbooks will drive one of those. Stewart At 09:45 AM 4/24/2009, you wrote: Apple laptops will drive a large, wide-screen monitor. I suppose some PCs can do this too. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tony B
Perhaps this does need to be explained to you, though I doubt it. Apple's profit was not from computers; those sales actually fell. Translation: Not good news for you. MS's losses are indicative of the economy right now; very few companies reported profits. Translation: Not good news for you.

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yup they make more profit as they are a direct to market seller, and make profit on both the hardware and software. MS make profit only on software and only on PC's sold. Apple of course is more diversified so it make profit from more sectors. Good for them of course. Stewart At 11:30 AM

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread b_s-wilk
At one time they would have been at the high middle. I wouldn't put Denon or Onkyo in the same category as McIntosh. BO is probably closer to Apple in design philosopy and market niche, IMHO. So you are saying apple is for elitist snobs? Apple products are for people who want good quality

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Apple of course is more diversified so it make profit from more sectors. AAPL more diversified? Did MSFT close down a large part of the company while I was not looking? This claim makes no sense at all. Someone who believes it will believe anything. Or is this just another example of WFBs

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Perhaps this does need to be explained to you, though I doubt it. Apple's profit was not from computers; those sales actually fell. Translation: Not good news for you. The iPhone iTouch are not computers? They run OS X. With all the current discussion of netbooks I'm surprised that you don't

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
The iPhone iTouch are not computers? They run OS X. With all the current discussion of netbooks I'm surprised that you don't recognize the ultimate net book. Or is being crappy a prerequisite for being a net book? No, but a keyboard sure is. And a screen big enough to read a word processing

Re: [CGUYS] monitor cables

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
It's the digital version of the analog VGA cable. For more info than you would ever want to know: There is also a flavor of DVI cable that does VGA passthrough. Lots of fun sorting through the various DVI cable flavors. *

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
And we wonder why Apple is called elitist? Apple already makes a better product in this category. I suspect the reason Apple is even bothering to trash netbooks is because they have a bigger iTouch in the works. Be sure to feign surprise when you see it.

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
Woopie, just what the world has been waiting for. Apparently 1 of the 3 will be your anti-virus software. No, it isn't like that. AV doesn't count, nor does any of Windows itself (e.g., Explorer Windows, command windows, control panel apps, Task Manager, etc.). Installers don't count. Most

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Considering what a netbook is intended for, limiting it to three open full applications isn't much of a restriction. And if it isn't, nothing prevents you from installing a different edition of Win7 on it. It's just intended to be the base version of Windows for installation by the OEMs. Were you

[CGUYS] Tubes

2009-04-24 Thread Eric S. Sande
I'm surprised that vacuum tubes are still being manufactured! I know people collect them from going to estate auctions. There are still quite a few compamies making them in China and the countries of the former USSR. Even a few Western countries, including the US. Non NOS audio type

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
iTouch/iPhone are fine machines, Tom, but they are emphatically NOT netbooks. Until you can show me someone typing a document at full speed into OpenOffice or an equivalent, I ain't buying that line for a second. My point is that a net book's keyboard is too small for serious typing. It is just

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
Were you around whan IBM came out theit its PC Jr? It is like that. Yes, I was around, and it is not like that at all. It is a version that is intended for the limited hardware environment of lower-end netbooks, that's all.

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
My point is that a net book's keyboard is too small for serious typing. It is just barely better than the iPhone/iTouch's version. Not better enough. You have a lot of real-life experience typing on netbooks? Or watching people who do? My son can type just as fast on his netbook as he can on a

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yes, I was around, and it is not like that at all. It is a version that is intended for the limited hardware environment of lower-end netbooks, that's all. Then why not let the hardware and the patience of the user determine how many applications can run?

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
To say that a reduced-size version of a real keyboard is barely better than a tiny touchscreen simulation of a keyboard is fantasy. I'll wait for Apple to do it right. http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/braintweet.html

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
To say that a reduced-size version of a real keyboard is barely better than a tiny touchscreen simulation of a keyboard is fantasy. I'll wait for Apple to do it right. I'm shocked. Of course, in the meantime the rest of us are getting our work done with our crappy keyboard-based

Re: [CGUYS] No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Eric S. Sande
So you are saying apple is for elitist snobs? I didn't mean to imply that. I just meant that to BO and Apple, design considerations have a similar importance. Apple executes better than BO. That is one reason that BO isn't doing better than it is. Another reason is that although both