Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Well, ended up buying the .com domain for this person's name. Why would you do that? People have a right to their own identity. If you're fucking with people, especially famous people, you have to accept that there are likely to be consequences. I didn't like the smell of you from the start, Randy, and now my bullshit detectors are off the scale. I apologise to the members of compuperguys-l for the profanity. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Do you or anyone else who might know think it matters that much at this point between .net and .com? I settled for a second choice name (probably too long as well) in order to get .com. Unnecessary move? In the early days of the 'net com was viewed with disdain. Today the com are riding high. Most people assume com and will type com even if you are a net. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
This person I'm talking about is one of those amazing people who has so much to offer so many people, which is why I am so glad Oprah had her on twice in the space of weeks. She is a renowned psychologist and writer and when I heard she didn't have a website, it occurred that a website could help disseminate her very needed message to far, far more people than will otherwise ever get it, including internationally. In fact, she could, of course, upload her appearances on Oprah and cross-list on Oprah's site, which, I bet, would produce even more synergistic benefit. In fact, if I do go ahead and try to grab her name for a domain, it will be pretty interesting to see how many hits it gets in a short period, given that the place she works at has been inundated with calls since her earlier Oprah appearance. I bet if she wanted to do this, she would have by now. Why do you think she needs your help? 30 million people watching Oprah isn't enough exposure for you? She's inundated with calls. I think everyone else interested is on to it. This whole thing is just really freaking creepy. Restraining order-level creepy. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Why would you do that? People have a right to their own identity. If you're fucking with people, especially famous people, you have to accept that there are likely to be consequences. Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Randy is being careful and asking the right questions. If you have concerns you can state them in a respectful manner and help him work out the right thing to do. The web is full of well done, unofficial fan sites. Some of these sites even get support from the object of their adoration. There is nothing wrong with having one more fan site. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Well, ended up buying the .com domain for this person's name. Maybe I'll just hold it for awhile and just see if she wants the name. If I do this or go beyond this and start creating a website around the themes associated with her name, just hope she sees this as neutral or positive rather than creepy or causing hassles. If you are going to meet her then you can ask for her blessing. Let her know that if she ever wants to post anything you will do it right away. And if she ever has a problem with anything you will fix it right away. Let her know that legally she can ask for the domain to be transferred to her any time she wants so you can really only do this with her blessing. If she has a publicist you should ask to be added to their press list. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Printing pains and computer-induced sleep disorder
what your problem with godaddy? if you can't figure out how to get them to take your money, what is your problem? If you can't get there in 30 min, have your kid do it. you say they are bad, but what is wrong with them? The problem with GoDaddy is trying to figure out how to prevent them from taking ALL your money. Their sign up process is full of extra-cost come-ons and you have to know what you are doing to resist their scare tactic sales approach. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
I bet if she wanted to do this, she would have by now. Why do you think she needs your help? 30 million people watching Oprah isn't enough exposure for you? She's inundated with calls. I think everyone else interested is on to it. Typical Windows-style nails that stick out get hammered down mindset. Now that is creepy. A web site is a perfect way to answer people's questions without having a large staff. If her popularity is about to skyrocket, a web site will be essential. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Power Off?
Interesting poll at www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071003235748182 How Often Do You Turn Off the Power to Your Internet Connection? 2/3 say Never * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Business Cards [Was: Printing pains and computer...
I was in a Staples recently and noticed their sample book of cards. Seems they keep one, assuming the customer says ok, to show their work. I'm not a typesetting sort.. The cards were glossy without raised type (they had a more concise term for that). They can put a color logo and any text you want, however you want it. They didn't require massive numbers of cards to print. They print in the store and it looked like a while you shop or hang out and wait timeframe. I forget the price details, but thought it sounded cheap for a box of basic cards. cb On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: And, just when you think you've figured out a solution for how to get some business cards together on very short notice (without spending much moola) by learning how to print them yourself, of course the printer or something or many things involved decide not to cooperate, and even play a bad joke, by making it almost appear at one point that its actually working. I have read that Staples and Office Depot will now print up a batch of business cards on the spot for low cost. Has anyone tried this? ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?
Yes, this is interesting. I never have turned off power to the cable modem and separate router because (according to Cox), they require a sequential boot process (is this true?). I do turn off the WAP when we are not using it, but more for security reasons than power consumption. I think shutting them all down is worth trying because while they don't consume much power individually, I'm sure cumulatively (nationwide/worldwide), it would make a big impact. My computer is set to hibernate automatically, along with the monitor. Richard P. Tom Piwowar wrote: Interesting poll at www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071003235748182 How Often Do You Turn Off the Power to Your Internet Connection? 2/3 say Never * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Okay, thanks...didn't see this post before I wrote my most recent one. Can I easily and cheaply transfer the name to her? The only reason for possibly not telling her about the name or any site based on it would be to surprise her with it, as a gift, but maybe that wouldn't be practical or something she'd want to really be surprised with (unless, maybe, the Oprah show was in on the surprise, for example; since Oprah seems to do this a lot). I don't want to cause this person any hassle or problems or added stress or concerns, which is why I am raising some of these possible concerns here and will also get advice elsewhere. Don't know anything about her arrangements, as far as having a publicist, etc., so would have to find out. Since she's written a few well-known books, guess she must have had this at some point. Right now, though, all I know is that she has a University affiliation, and they are being swamped with calls since the show. Incidentally, this University (the Med school, actually) has about the worst, most user-unfriendly website I've ever seen, which is how I ended up having to call and speak to someone who works with this women at the school; simply to get basic contact info. for her and one or two others who work there). Randall - Original Message - From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons? Well, ended up buying the .com domain for this person's name. Maybe I'll just hold it for awhile and just see if she wants the name. If I do this or go beyond this and start creating a website around the themes associated with her name, just hope she sees this as neutral or positive rather than creepy or causing hassles. If you are going to meet her then you can ask for her blessing. Let her know that if she ever wants to post anything you will do it right away. And if she ever has a problem with anything you will fix it right away. Let her know that legally she can ask for the domain to be transferred to her any time she wants so you can really only do this with her blessing. If she has a publicist you should ask to be added to their press list. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Trying not to say too much about this person to give away her identity (at least easily), but she is a renowned expert on a very serious problem in the mental health arena that causes a tremendous amount of pain, suffering and even death to millions of people, here and everywhere. So she (and others) have a message that could certainly benefit far more people than have probably even heard of her or even of Oprah (though guess most people in the world have heard of Oprah). Maybe, for instance, someone in India is suffering needlessly with these sort of conditions and stumbling on this woman's work or her website might give them a sliver of hope that they don't have to live in psychological (and often physical) hell. Maybe it would be someone who has no concept of things like mental health disorders or, as someone from India recently told me, that maybe their troubles are a result of not having enough religious faith or some other dubious and ultimately harmful thoughts about their problem. Randall - Original Message - From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons? I bet if she wanted to do this, she would have by now. Why do you think she needs your help? 30 million people watching Oprah isn't enough exposure for you? She's inundated with calls. I think everyone else interested is on to it. Typical Windows-style nails that stick out get hammered down mindset. Now that is creepy. A web site is a perfect way to answer people's questions without having a large staff. If her popularity is about to skyrocket, a web site will be essential. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done it. Yes Jeff, we know where you are coming from: If my users wanted decent computers they would have slaughtered me years ago -- so they must be happy with Windows. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
On 10/7/07, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done it. Maybe she's doing it as we speak, so it can be done right. I don't think I'd want someone I didn't know doing that on my behalf, without my permission. Poor Jeffrey. So used to having people obey senseless rules that he can no longer come up with reasonable justifications. I can see the people in your organization. Another crazy rule from IT. Oh well, I guess we are used to it by now. Clearly, no one famous or about to be famous would recommend someone unknown do something for him/her. OTOH, looking at what Randy is proposing, he is clearly doing the right thing by any reasonable person's standards. There are dozens (that I have heard of) of well-run fan sites that the famous person endorses. There are also many where the fan set up the site and gave it to the famous person later when asked. There are a handful where there was some sort of legal fight. Somehow, given the evidence, I suspect that Randy is not the one to start such a thing. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Whatever. Randy can and will do whatever he likes. -Original Message- Poor Jeffrey. So used to having people obey senseless rules that he can no longer come up with reasonable justifications. I can see the people in your organization. Another crazy rule from IT. Oh well, I guess we are used to it by now. I bet you pout when IT tells you no, again. Tom, OTOH, I picture as Yosemite Sam, stomping on his hat, when someone is productive using a PC. Clearly, no one famous or about to be famous would recommend someone unknown do something for him/her. OTOH, looking at what Randy is proposing, he is clearly doing the right thing by any reasonable person's standards. There are dozens (that I have heard of) of well-run fan sites that the famous person endorses. There are also many where the fan set up the site and gave it to the famous person later when asked. There are a handful where there was some sort of legal fight. Somehow, given the evidence, I suspect that Randy is not the one to start such a thing. Whatever. Randy can and will do as he pleases. He asked for our opinions. He got them. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
I'm constantly amazed and pleased at the kindness and generosity of strangers here, and around the world. Jeff, you miss so much by assuming the worst when most likely the outcome will be neutral or positive. Randy, there's a fine line between being a fanboy and being a stalker. You seem to have stayed on the fan side so far. It's possible that the person for whom you grabbed the eponymous site is too busy to do it on her own. Or perhaps if she is famous, but tied to research or a profession other than entertainment, she may prefer a business, group or themed site rather than one in her own name. If you have registered her name for a domain, and GoDaddy is annoying, I think you can transfer it to another more friendly host. And, Randy, even if you contact that person and she's not interested in the domain, at least you tried. When you don't try, the answer is always no. Betty Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done it. Maybe she's doing it as we speak, so it can be done right. I don't think I'd want someone I didn't know doing that on my behalf, without my permission. Poor Jeffrey. So used to having people obey senseless rules that he can no longer come up with reasonable justifications. I can see the people in your organization. Another crazy rule from IT. Oh well, I guess we are used to it by now. Clearly, no one famous or about to be famous would recommend someone unknown do something for him/her. OTOH, looking at what Randy is proposing, he is clearly doing the right thing by any reasonable person's standards. There are dozens (that I have heard of) of well-run fan sites that the famous person endorses. There are also many where the fan set up the site and gave it to the famous person later when asked. There are a handful where there was some sort of legal fight. Somehow, given the evidence, I suspect that Randy is not the one to start such a thing. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Betty, Yes, the final logic was that if she doesn't want the name or a site and doesn't want me or anyone else to use her name or put a site up using it, I would then at least be able to sit on her name and it would be safe from the cybersquatters Tom mentioned. This person isn't really, exactly a celebrity. She was on Oprah because she is, as Oprah said, considered the leading expert (Oprah's words) on a very serious mental health problem and is an inspiring person and writer who has written and spoken eloquently about her own personal experience with this disorder. She is mostly, at this point, an academic (apparently doesn't even see patients anymore, from what I recently learned), writer, etc. She may not be all that well known outside of mental health circles, like your usual celebrity. However, she is very well known in mental health circles, and undoubtedly, the great majority of people calling since her recent Oprah appearances (on shows about this problem) are for or about people who are dealing, directly or indirectly, with this thing. Of course, being on Oprah twice in a week (and maybe before at some point, as well as other, previous media exposure) makes anyone much more of a celebrity, but this would probably still be within a pretty narrow slice of the overall population. So I don't consider myself a fan in that sense; I am an admirer who is inspired by her and was looking to her as a possible source of expert opinion in her field, to help someone. And since she is a mental health advocate, as am I (though obviously not on the same scale), I also see her, in this sense, as a potential colleague and fellow traveler of sorts. In this same sense, I am increasingly becoming a fan of Oprah, but probably not for the same reason that so many of her followers live or die on her every word. My admiration is quite different - it is because Oprah has shifted what she is doing on her show in recent years (especially the past year or so) and is doing many shows to help overcome various prejudices and deal with various societal problems, from global warming to people who are shunned because they are different in some way, such as having a mental illness, gender identity issues, bullying, etc. She has an amazing platform to reach a lot of people who otherwise would not be easily reached, to inform and especially inspire and empower them. This is what the 2 recent appearances of this psychologist were about. Randall - Original Message - From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons? I'm constantly amazed and pleased at the kindness and generosity of strangers here, and around the world. Jeff, you miss so much by assuming the worst when most likely the outcome will be neutral or positive. Randy, there's a fine line between being a fanboy and being a stalker. You seem to have stayed on the fan side so far. It's possible that the person for whom you grabbed the eponymous site is too busy to do it on her own. Or perhaps if she is famous, but tied to research or a profession other than entertainment, she may prefer a business, group or themed site rather than one in her own name. If you have registered her name for a domain, and GoDaddy is annoying, I think you can transfer it to another more friendly host. And, Randy, even if you contact that person and she's not interested in the domain, at least you tried. When you don't try, the answer is always no. Betty Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done it. Maybe she's doing it as we speak, so it can be done right. I don't think I'd want someone I didn't know doing that on my behalf, without my permission. Poor Jeffrey. So used to having people obey senseless rules that he can no longer come up with reasonable justifications. I can see the people in your organization. Another crazy rule from IT. Oh well, I guess we are used to it by now. Clearly, no one famous or about to be famous would recommend someone unknown do something for him/her. OTOH, looking at what Randy is proposing, he is clearly doing the right thing by any reasonable person's standards. There are dozens (that I have heard of) of well-run fan sites that the famous person endorses. There are also many where the fan set up the site and gave it to the famous person later when asked. There are a handful where there was some sort of legal fight. Somehow, given the evidence, I suspect that Randy is not the one to start such a thing. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET
