Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Michael Fernando
> With this new technology will there really be a need for personally-owned
> vehicles? Would it not be better to just call for a vehicle of the type
> needed for each trip and have it come get you?

When the personal ownership goes away, you can have modular cars.
So when they are on the highway, a column of cars can couple together
like a train and conserve energy.

When the cars are computer controlled, they can talk to each other and
the traffic controllers at the major intersections and by controlling the
speed most cars will not have to stop at the intersections.

This is, of course, utopia.  You can't achieve something like that in a
place where individualism is paramount.  Perhaps, in the first Mars
colony.


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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital 
>broadcasting, copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital 
>signals, disabling recording on any of the above devices for these 
>selected programs.

I do not see any progress on doing this. The broadcast flag is largely a 
dead issue.


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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Michael Fernando
> ... but not a computer making all the decisions. HAL? HELLO?

Um, HAL-9000 was a fictional computer.  If you stick to that fiction
(2001, 2010 and 2061) it wasn't HAL's fault.

"HAL was told to lie - by people who find it easy to lie. HAL doesn't
know how."

"Whether we are based on carbon or silicon makes no fundamental difference.
We should each be treated with appropriate respect."

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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Develop a copy protection scheme and someone will develop a way around it.

Make a lock that is unpickable and before you know it someone has 
found a way to pick it.


Part of human nature or reverse psychology.  Tell us it cannot be 
done and we will find a way to do it.


Stewart


At 07:01 PM 10/14/2008, you wrote:

Friend of mine at work had a blu ray copy of iron man about a week before it
was released.  That copy protection scheme worked out well, I'm sure
anything else will be just as successful.

Mike

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Robert wrote:
>
>  Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital broadcasting,
>> copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital signals, disabling
>> recording on any of the above devices for these selected programs.
>>
>
>  This has long been claimed as one of the reasons for a shift to digital
> television broadcasting.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread mike
Friend of mine at work had a blu ray copy of iron man about a week before it
was released.  That copy protection scheme worked out well, I'm sure
anything else will be just as successful.

Mike

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Robert wrote:
>
>  Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital broadcasting,
>> copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital signals, disabling
>> recording on any of the above devices for these selected programs.
>>
>
>  This has long been claimed as one of the reasons for a shift to digital
> television broadcasting.
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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread Jim
I've recently started using an EyeTV 250 to time-shift TV programs.   
Have only had it for a few days so am still learning about it.In  
addition to processing both analog and digital signals it allows me to  
record my old VHS tapes to DVD.  'course you need a working VHS player  
to do this.  Also has a connection to allow X-Box to use the computer  
monitor.  I bought mine as a refurb from OWC - www.macsales.com


The digital picture quality is terrific on my monitor in a resizable  
window.

I am using a cheap ($20) antenna sitting on a shelf in the office.
Saved recordings tend to be huge but it ships with a version of Toast  
so you can processes it as you like.

Plan to try to connect it up to Fios TV converter box when I have time.

Not as simple a solution as recording direct to VHS however it does  
have its pluses.


Jim


On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Robert wrote:

A follow-up on my question about finding a replacement device for my  
broken VCR that will work with both broadcast digital signals and  
satellite signals.  After much searching, I have concluded there is  
no replacement for a VCR.


Searching Google for a "VCR with digital tuner" there is only one  
hit, at Walmart.  Going to Walmart site, the VCR is not available on- 
line and not available in any store within 100 miles of me.


Looking at a VCR/DVD recorder, find that copy protection prevents  
recording from a DirectTV satellite box -- at least the movie  
channels.


Looking at TiVo, find at TiVo web site that the TiVo will not work  
at all with satellite unless I buy the model which works only with  
analog TV.

http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/whichtivoforme/index.html

As for buying a refurbished VCR, my digital converter box  
automatically shuts off after 4 hours thereby preventing timer  
recording.


Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital  
broadcasting, copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital  
signals, disabling recording on any of the above devices for these  
selected programs.


So it looks to me like time-shifting programs is a thing of the  
past, at least for the ones that are copy protected.



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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread Steve Rigby

On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Robert wrote:

Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital  
broadcasting, copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital  
signals, disabling recording on any of the above devices for these  
selected programs.


  This has long been claimed as one of the reasons for a shift to  
digital television broadcasting.


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Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question

2008-10-14 Thread Robert
A follow-up on my question about finding a replacement device for my 
broken VCR that will work with both broadcast digital signals and 
satellite signals.  After much searching, I have concluded there is no 
replacement for a VCR.


Searching Google for a "VCR with digital tuner" there is only one hit, 
at Walmart.  Going to Walmart site, the VCR is not available on-line and 
not available in any store within 100 miles of me.


Looking at a VCR/DVD recorder, find that copy protection prevents 
recording from a DirectTV satellite box -- at least the movie channels.


Looking at TiVo, find at TiVo web site that the TiVo will not work at 
all with satellite unless I buy the model which works only with analog TV.

http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/whichtivoforme/index.html

As for buying a refurbished VCR, my digital converter box automatically 
shuts off after 4 hours thereby preventing timer recording.


Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital 
broadcasting, copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital 
signals, disabling recording on any of the above devices for these 
selected programs.


So it looks to me like time-shifting programs is a thing of the past, at 
least for the ones that are copy protected.



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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I don't understand why you would then throw the driver into prison for
>leaving the highway.

Human control of a vehicle has proven to be extremely dangerous. It has 
killed more people than all wars put together. We want this dangerous 
weapon of mass destruction under reliable control as soon as possible.

There is no reason why the computer can't guide the car to its final 
destination and park it. GPS boxes are already ordering the human driver 
around. Some cares already parallel park under computer control.

With this new technology will there really be a need for personally-owned 
vehicles? Would it not be better to just call for a vehicle of the type 
needed for each trip and have it come get you? If you needed a van or a 
truck you would get one. A family trip would get a family-size vehicle. 
If you only needed to transport a single person you would call for a 
small, economical personal transporter. During rush-hour a group 
transporter would make several stops along an efficient computer-planned 
route. So overall we would need fewer vehicles and the distribution of 
vehicle sizes would probably skew towards the personal transporter and 
very few SUVs.


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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that the
>chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can pick
>up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.

That is the right answer. This is a small battery the size of a couple of 
quarters.


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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Robert

Where did you get it?


Constance Warner wrote:

This may not be exactly a propos, but we bought a new VCR with a digital
tuner in it.  Much to our surprise, we picked up digital signals as soon
as we installed it, using an old window-mounted analog antenna.
Unfortunately, we can't tell whether all of the stations will come in
after the full conversion to digital, as we're still picking up analog
signals from the major commercial channels.  If you need a new VCR
anyway--and you might, because if you want to record digital programs
off the airwaves, you need to do it on digital media--this might be a
good and easy-to-install alternative to a converter box.

BTW, we're in the Rockville end of Silver Spring, at an area where
analog reception is fairly good but not outstanding.

One pleasant surprise: WJLA TV (Channel 7), in Washington, has several
auxiliary digital channels.  One of them, Channel 7-3, has reruns of
Magnum PI and Rockford Files on weekday evenings (9-11 p.m.).  The
comparison with the production values and, especially, the writing on
today's network shows is striking.  There's just so much more going on
in the older shows (in characterization, dialogue, plot, etc.) that you
don't see in something like the CSI shows, where the action periodically
grinds to a screeching halt while a beautiful but expressionless actor
does something incomprehensible to some nasty substance in a test tube,
while a popular song plays in the background and the editors go wild
with tricky camera shots.

On the other hand, MPT (Maryland Public Television) doesn't come in at
all where we live, but since it never did have a good signal in
Montgomery County, and it apparently doesn't have Dr. Who any more, who
cares?

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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Larry Sacks
>When they bring in the successful overseas cars that 
>get >40mpg, some will sell well here, especially those with 4 and
5-star 
>EuroNCAP crash test ratings [Aygo, Fiat 500]. Anyone for a Ford Ka?
Fiat 
>500? Ford Fiesta? Toyota Aygo [Peugeot 107, Citroen C1]? Ligier Nova?
GM 
>Chevy Matiz?

I'm hoping the rumors the Fiat 500 will make it over here are true.  I
drove one earlier this summer - someone managed to get one across the
pond and toured it around the US.  

>I have my doubts about pure electric cars.  Batteries aren't ready. 

But cars like the Tesla Roadster look so cool though.  :-)  

>As for self-driving cars, they're only as good as the people who
program 
>and use them. Computers did a terrible job of improving vehicle energy 
>efficiency, so I don't expect computers to do a good job of something
so 
>complicated as driving. There's a sensible solution: public 
>transportation, heavy rail like the DC Metro rail system. 

I couldn't agree more.  When I've visited the DC area, it's amazing at
how you can get practically anywhere at almost any time.

Unfortunately, once you get outside the beltway (and I realize, all the
action happens inside the beltway), mass transit is "mass" only when
referring to the size/weight of the buses and "light-rail" cars and not
the number of people actually using it.  

>Just don't 
>hire contract temps who text while driving. Oh, right, those trains are

>automated. Otherwise we'll wait for energy efficient cars with 
>'avoidance' technology, 

There's already "avoidance" technology.  Ever hear of the horn?  :-)

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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
First thing to check is signal strength. Most of these tuner boxes have a 
signal strength meter function. The meter should give you a reading even 
for stations that are too weak to lock in their digital signal.

Some stations have relocated their antennas as part of their digital TV 
buildout. How recently has your antenna guy set your antenna orientation?

What does AntennaWeb tell you about your location?

You may do better with a better box than the ones sold by WallMart. From 
my reading the ones sold by WallMart have been very basic. You probably 
need one with above average sensitivity.

Some boxes come with Smartenna connections. This is a new kind of antenna 
that can be electrically skewed to work sort of like an antenna rotor. 
This will tune the antenna for the best signal for each specific station 
you are receiving. 

>Got a walmart special and hooked it up to analog tv (sony kv25xbr) and to
>amplified uhf+vhf antenna on 40' tower pointed toward philly 1h away by car.
>Get lots of nice analog stuff for years incl.
>cbs,abc,nbc,whyy,njn,wybe,wb,fox,cw but don't get much on the digital
>...initially got 3.x and no longer do.  Get 48.x and 61.x ...that's all.
>What do I need2do to figure out what's wrong.  Antenna points correctly as
>an antennaguy installed it and tested signal strength.  There's an amplifier
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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread db

No. or very doubtful at least...

Did you try that test?

db

Ranbo wrote:

Could this be why sound via speakers hooked to computer has recently been
significantly less volume no matter what I set the volume at?

Randall


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM, db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Remove all USB devices and as many adapter cards as you can (sound card,
modem, NIC card). If it boots up without a problem then, odds are the power
supply is starting to fail.   They cost about $100 to have a  local shop
replace one.
But you could also grab your data files while you have it running (or later
...) and invest that $100 in a new scratch and dent or refurbished $400
machine from http://www.dell.com/outlet.
 db


Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote:



Could it be the Power Supply? I had this once.
If its not the battery - after it is changed - then it must be the power
supply. Dell must have
a replacement.

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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not 
>the MB battery.

I have run into this several times and it was the battery in all cases.


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[CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
Could this be why sound via speakers hooked to computer has recently been
significantly less volume no matter what I set the volume at?

Randall


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM, db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Remove all USB devices and as many adapter cards as you can (sound card,
> modem, NIC card). If it boots up without a problem then, odds are the power
> supply is starting to fail.   They cost about $100 to have a  local shop
> replace one.
> But you could also grab your data files while you have it running (or later
> ...) and invest that $100 in a new scratch and dent or refurbished $400
> machine from http://www.dell.com/outlet.
>  db
>
>
> Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote:
>
>> Could it be the Power Supply? I had this once.
>> If its not the battery - after it is changed - then it must be the power
>> supply. Dell must have
>> a replacement.
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread db
Remove all USB devices and as many adapter cards as you can (sound card, 
modem, NIC card). If it boots up without a problem then, odds are the 
power supply is starting to fail.   They cost about $100 to have a  
local shop replace one. 

But you could also grab your data files while you have it running (or 
later ...) and invest that $100 in a new scratch and dent or refurbished 
$400 machine from http://www.dell.com/outlet.  


db

Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote:

Could it be the Power Supply? I had this once.
If its not the battery - after it is changed - then it must be the 
power supply. Dell must have

a replacement.

Marcio

At 01:16 PM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not 
the MB battery.


That sounds more like Motherboard or Harddrive.

How old is this computer that the MB battery is dying?

Stewart


At 11:09 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; 
that the
chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I 
can pick

up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the 
battery
and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave 
computer
running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the 
problem be
something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another 
computer,

so have to use this one for now for work, etc.

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and 
they
> are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or 
you are

> speaking of power supply?...
>
> Confused...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and 
also

>> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> ordered
>> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At 
this

>> point,
>> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer 
on all

>> the
>> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The 
nearby Radio
>> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this 
battery in

>> their
>> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want 
to get

>> one
>> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell 
refurbished
>> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will 
last.  I

>> ordered an extra for a back up.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply 
ensuring a

>> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> battery
>> > > runs low.
>> >
>> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets 
low. It

>> either
>> > >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] OpenOffice Goes Native on Intel Macs

2008-10-14 Thread David K Watson

StarOffice 9 (beta) is also out and has a native version for intel
macs.  It will supposedly be coming out of beta in November.

Also NeoOffice is Mac-only and will run natively on both PowerPC
and Intel macs.

All three share the same code based on StarOffice, but
StarOffice is commercial while OpenOffice and NeoOffice
are free.  Also, since the code has to be ported to the mac,
NeoOffice tends to lag a bit behind the other two, which
are basically even.

I have been trying the beta of StarOffice 9, and I can tell you that
it loads much more quickly than earlier versions of OpenOffice
and NeoOffice did (I haven't tried version 3 of OpenOffice yet).
StarOffice is arguably better for business purposes (customer
support is built into the price and includes indemnification from
intellectual property lawsuits), and OpenOffice is fine for casual
use.


OpenOffice 3.0 is out and there is a native version for Intel-based
Macs.  No need to run X11 anymore.

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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Fred Holmes
If it were a hard drive problem with a good motherboard, one would normally get 
an error message from the boot ROM, "Operating System Not Found" or similar.

Fred Holmes

At 12:16 PM 10/14/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
>Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not the MB 
>battery.
>
>That sounds more like Motherboard or Harddrive.
>
>How old is this computer that the MB battery is dying?
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:53 AM 10/14/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>This sounds suspicious. In my experience batteries do not get refurbished.

Likely is a "unique" battery type that is no longer in production because no 
new equipment uses it.  Very low demand item.  But Dell would provide it for 
its own computers on general principles of full support for some number of 
years after a computer is sold. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>Batteries -- actually a cell in a computer -- are strange.  I had to replace 
>my CMOS cell a few months ago in a Dell desktop about 4 years old.  But some 
>will last 10 years as they do in my watch.

Replacement time generally depends upon the explicit quality of the individual 
capacitors in the clock circuit.  If a given capacitor is a "little bit" leaky, 
it will shorten the battery life.  But if the computer is left turned on all of 
the time, the power supply will power the clock/CMOS RAM and the battery won't 
be drained anyway.

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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:40 AM 10/14/2008, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote:
>But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.

A decent time synchronization applet will provide a warning if the correction 
required is "large," say two minutes by default and generally selectable in the 
"settings" dialog.

http://nettime.sourceforge.net/ is freeware, if what you are using doesn't have 
a warning function.

You still wouldn't notice a low battery if the computer is never turned off, 
but you will if it is turned off and the battery-operated clock deviates more 
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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Richard P.
Have you run and compared your antenna system on www.antennaweb.org?
You can always call the station's engineering department for help.
They'll know if things will get better or if it's going to stay the
same after Feb. I think that your antenna amplifier transmitter is
supposed to be as close to the antenna as possible, which means at the
top of the 40' tower.

Richard P.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:07 PM, rlsimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got a walmart special and hooked it up to analog tv (sony kv25xbr) and to
> amplified uhf+vhf antenna on 40' tower pointed toward philly 1h away by car.
> Get lots of nice analog stuff for years incl.
> cbs,abc,nbc,whyy,njn,wybe,wb,fox,cw but don't get much on the digital
> ...initially got 3.x and no longer do.  Get 48.x and 61.x ...that's all.
> What do I need2do to figure out what's wrong.  Antenna points correctly as
> an antennaguy installed it and tested signal strength.  There's an amplifier
> at the bottom of the tower (just inside the wall) and another near the tv...
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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.03: Report Broken Website Broken?

2008-10-14 Thread Jordan
I sometimes use a Firefox extension called PDF Download which asks what 
you want to do when you click on a pdf: view as html, or download. It 
usually works pretty well, but it would not view the one I tried at the 
Cannondale site.

Firefox 3
Mac OS 10.5

Richard P. wrote:

I am having some trouble opening some PDF's in Firefox at Cannondale's
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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

HAL? HELLO?


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.03: Report Broken Website Broken?

2008-10-14 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for the tip. I tried saving it and then opening it and it
worked just fine. I'm surprised by this. Is this just because of this
website or is it standard operating procedure to save them first? I've
never had to do this before when viewing a PDF.

Richard P.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I only tried one; it opened fine in Foxit Reader. Remember, FF doesn't
> actually display pdf's, so it may not be a FF problem. Did you try
> saving them before opening them?
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Richard P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am having some trouble opening some PDF's in Firefox at Cannondale's
>> Tech Center:
>> http://www.cannondale.com/tech_center/accessories/cyclinggear.html
>> The links open up fine in IE8. Other PDF's have no trouble using FF.
>> When I went to report this using Firefox's "Report broken website"
>> tool, I find that the "Submit Report" is grayed out, not allowing me
>> to report it. Anyone else notice this or am I missing something?
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Re: [CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice]

2008-10-14 Thread gerald
japanese car.  very hard to get parts from chrysler.   later mitisubishi were 
not reliable.

At 11:40 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
>>The day I knew Consumers Reports was totally biased and clueless was 
>>when they reviewed an odd little car we owned, the 1980 Dodge Colt 
>>[Plymouth Champ]. 
>
>We enjoyed our "Champ" too. Very nice, reliable car.
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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread rlsimon
Got a walmart special and hooked it up to analog tv (sony kv25xbr) and to
amplified uhf+vhf antenna on 40' tower pointed toward philly 1h away by car.
Get lots of nice analog stuff for years incl.
cbs,abc,nbc,whyy,njn,wybe,wb,fox,cw but don't get much on the digital
...initially got 3.x and no longer do.  Get 48.x and 61.x ...that's all.
What do I need2do to figure out what's wrong.  Antenna points correctly as
an antennaguy installed it and tested signal strength.  There's an amplifier
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro

Could it be the Power Supply? I had this once.
If its not the battery - after it is changed - then it must be the 
power supply. Dell must have

a replacement.

Marcio

At 01:16 PM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not 
the MB battery.


That sounds more like Motherboard or Harddrive.

How old is this computer that the MB battery is dying?

Stewart


At 11:09 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:

Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that the
chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can pick
up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the battery
and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave computer
running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the problem be
something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another computer,
so have to use this one for now for work, etc.

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
> are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you are
> speaking of power supply?...
>
> Confused...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
>> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> ordered
>> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
>> point,
>> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
>> the
>> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
>> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
>> their
>> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get
>> one
>> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this 
will last.  I

>> ordered an extra for a back up.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> battery
>> > > runs low.
>> >
>> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It
>> either
>> > >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread b_s-wilk

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> The auto industry will have to undo decades of pushing the concept that
> driving is an enjoyable experience and is part and parcel, perhaps even most
> of the reason for choosing one car over another for purchase.  That'll be a
> damn hard sell, in my opinion, and perhaps almost impossible to accomplish.
>


What auto industry?  Are you even paying attention?

--


There's a big American auto industry, in case you haven't noticed. 
Honda's in Ohio, Nissan's in Tennessee, Toyota's in California; 
Mitsubishi, Subaru, Hyundai, BMW, Hyundai and Mercedes-Benz are also 
have models made in the US; VW will have a plant in Alabama. Ford's 
overseas units are running at a profit, but they're hurting here because 
they still depend on gas/diesel hogs in the US market where gas has been 
relatively cheap. When they bring in the successful overseas cars that 
get >40mpg, some will sell well here, especially those with 4 and 5-star 
EuroNCAP crash test ratings [Aygo, Fiat 500]. Anyone for a Ford Ka? Fiat 
500? Ford Fiesta? Toyota Aygo [Peugeot 107, Citroen C1]? Ligier Nova? GM 
Chevy Matiz?


I have my doubts about pure electric cars. Batteries aren't ready. 
Electricity is not a good way to move vehicles, except maybe designs 
with the motorized wheels. Electric cars may not pollute like petro 
powered cars--they're worse, and will be until the electricity is 
powered by clean renewables, instead of dirty sources like petro, coal 
and nukes.


As for self-driving cars, they're only as good as the people who program 
and use them. Computers did a terrible job of improving vehicle energy 
efficiency, so I don't expect computers to do a good job of something so 
complicated as driving. There's a sensible solution: public 
transportation, heavy rail like the DC Metro rail system. Just don't 
hire contract temps who text while driving. Oh, right, those trains are 
automated. Otherwise we'll wait for energy efficient cars with 
'avoidance' technology, but not a computer making all the decisions. 
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro

Open the case, look atthe MB, see where the battery is. Look at the battery and
see its number. Go to any place, buy one and replace. Mine are 
usually 2025, 2032

or similar andthey are found any place.

Marcio

At 01:09 PM 10/14/2008, you wrote:

Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that the
chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can pick
up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the battery
and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave computer
running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the problem be
something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another computer,
so have to use this one for now for work, etc.

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
> are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you are
> speaking of power supply?...
>
> Confused...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
>> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> ordered
>> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
>> point,
>> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
>> the
>> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
>> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
>> their
>> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get
>> one
>> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
>> ordered an extra for a back up.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> battery
>> > > runs low.
>> >
>> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It
>> either
>> > >>> runs or it doesn't.
>> >
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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Constance Warner
Couldn't tell you right now, because I'm not home--I can look it up for
you when I do get home.

We prowled around the Big Box stores, reading boxes and asking
questions, until we got a VCR that worked with an analog TV and that had
a digital tuner in it.

--Constance

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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

Which model? Does your VCR have both analog and digital outputs?

Richard P.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Constance Warner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may not be exactly a propos, but we bought a new VCR with a
digital
> tuner in it.  Much to our surprise, we picked up digital signals as
soon
> as we installed it, using an old window-mounted analog antenna.
> Unfortunately, we can't tell whether all of the stations will come in
> after the full conversion to digital, as we're still picking up analog
> signals from the major commercial channels.  If you need a new VCR
> anyway--and you might, because if you want to record digital programs
> off the airwaves, you need to do it on digital media--this might be a
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
Bought it in March 2004.  Naturally past the 4 year Dell warranty I got.

What about that low system battery warning I get when I turn it on?

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not the MB
> battery.
>
> That sounds more like Motherboard or Harddrive.
>
> How old is this computer that the MB battery is dying?
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
> At 11:09 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that
>> the
>> chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can
>> pick
>> up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
>> number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the
>> battery
>> and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave computer
>> running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the problem be
>> something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another computer,
>> so have to use this one for now for work, etc.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>> > Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
>> > are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you
>> are
>> > speaking of power supply?...
>> >
>> > Confused...
>> >
>> > Marcio
>> >
>> >
>> > At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>> >
>> >> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
>> >> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> >> ordered
>> >> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
>> >> point,
>> >> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
>> >> the
>> >> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby
>> Radio
>> >> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
>> >> their
>> >> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to
>> get
>> >> one
>> >> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>> >> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.
>>  I
>> >> ordered an extra for a back up.
>> >>
>> >> Randall
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> >> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> >> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> >> battery
>> >> > > runs low.
>> >> >
>> >> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> >> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It
>> >> either
>> >> > >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Richard P.
Which model? Does your VCR have both analog and digital outputs?

Richard P.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Constance Warner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may not be exactly a propos, but we bought a new VCR with a digital
> tuner in it.  Much to our surprise, we picked up digital signals as soon
> as we installed it, using an old window-mounted analog antenna.
> Unfortunately, we can't tell whether all of the stations will come in
> after the full conversion to digital, as we're still picking up analog
> signals from the major commercial channels.  If you need a new VCR
> anyway--and you might, because if you want to record digital programs
> off the airwaves, you need to do it on digital media--this might be a
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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Constance Warner
This may not be exactly a propos, but we bought a new VCR with a digital
tuner in it.  Much to our surprise, we picked up digital signals as soon
as we installed it, using an old window-mounted analog antenna.
Unfortunately, we can't tell whether all of the stations will come in
after the full conversion to digital, as we're still picking up analog
signals from the major commercial channels.  If you need a new VCR
anyway--and you might, because if you want to record digital programs
off the airwaves, you need to do it on digital media--this might be a
good and easy-to-install alternative to a converter box.

BTW, we're in the Rockville end of Silver Spring, at an area where
analog reception is fairly good but not outstanding.

One pleasant surprise: WJLA TV (Channel 7), in Washington, has several
auxiliary digital channels.  One of them, Channel 7-3, has reruns of
Magnum PI and Rockford Files on weekday evenings (9-11 p.m.).  The
comparison with the production values and, especially, the writing on
today's network shows is striking.  There's just so much more going on
in the older shows (in characterization, dialogue, plot, etc.) that you
don't see in something like the CSI shows, where the action periodically
grinds to a screeching halt while a beautiful but expressionless actor
does something incomprehensible to some nasty substance in a test tube,
while a popular song plays in the background and the editors go wild
with tricky camera shots.

On the other hand, MPT (Maryland Public Television) doesn't come in at
all where we live, but since it never did have a good signal in
Montgomery County, and it apparently doesn't have Dr. Who any more, who
cares?

--Constance Warner


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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Having to reboot the computer 10 times to get it to come up is not 
the MB battery.


That sounds more like Motherboard or Harddrive.

How old is this computer that the MB battery is dying?

Stewart


At 11:09 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:

Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that the
chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can pick
up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the battery
and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave computer
running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the problem be
something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another computer,
so have to use this one for now for work, etc.

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
> are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you are
> speaking of power supply?...
>
> Confused...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
>> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> ordered
>> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
>> point,
>> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
>> the
>> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
>> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
>> their
>> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get
>> one
>> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
>> ordered an extra for a back up.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> battery
>> > > runs low.
>> >
>> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It
>> either
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
How do I do this?  When this low battery message comes up, except for one
time, nothing happens when I hit any key, so have to turn off, then on
again, repeatedly.

Randall

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> As long as all the fans are functioning there's no danger in leaving
> the machine on all the time. It's just a waste of power. But you
> really shouldn't have to do that. At worst, you might have to go into
> the BIOS and select "load safe defaults" on each boot.
>
> Bad idea ordering the extra. As you've seen in this thread, it's rare
> to have to replace these even once during the lifetime of a computer.
> And we still have no idea if this actually has anything to do with
> your problem.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
> > turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
> ordered
> > the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
> point,
> > since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
> the
> > time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
> > Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
> their
> > database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get
> one
> > sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
> > batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.
>  I
> > ordered an extra for a back up.
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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Steve Rigby

On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


The central traffic
authority would route you in a way that would minimize congestion  
for the
greater public good  and keep you out of zones in which your  
presence was

unwanted.


  Sounds like a plan that would go over big-time with audiences that  
attend rallies for one of our current Presidential/Vice Presidential  
campaigns.


  Steve

 Addendum: I hear that the NSA is building a huge eavesdropping  
facility in San Antonio that will be located almost next to a large  
facility that is to be built by Microsoft that will house Microsoft's  
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
When I turn computer on I get a message that the voltage battery system is
low.  Today got this about a dozen times before finally got it to boot up.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> So, what makes you think that the vbattery is low? What are the signs?
> I always used the date and time changes...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 21:18 13/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the battery
>> > runs low.
>>
>> > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It either
>> >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread John Emmerling
I don't follow.  As I would envision it, the car merges into the
outermost lane of the highway.  While in this lane, the system that
controls traffic on the highway takes over, and the driver
relinquishes control.  The system will then move the car into the
inner lanes according to some algorithm.  At some later point, the
driver will indicate at which exit they want to leave the highway.  On
approaching the exit, the system would move the car into the outer
lane and return control to the driver.  That's as much detail as I
think is needed to communicate the basic idea.

I don't understand why you would then throw the driver into prison for
leaving the highway.

Computing road use tax is an obvious part of the scenario, however I
would think of it as a "toll" rather than a tax.  On what basis is
road use tax computed nowadays (e.g. for trucks)?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>As I see it, such a car would be owner-driven except when on the highway.
>>This way, the motorist could potentially enjoy all the testosterone-driven
>>thrills associated with today's model, but would also enjoy improved
>>safety, reduced insurance costs, and an enjoyable commute during which
>>they might be able to achieve some objective other than transportation
>
> As I see it, taking the car off of computer control would be an illegal
> act with long prison sentences for violation. The central traffic
> authority would route you in a way that would minimize congestion for the
> greater public good  and keep you out of zones in which your presence was
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
Guy at Batteries Plus said I should just take out the CMOS battery; that the
chances are 99% that on Desk Top it is just a simple battery that I can pick
up anywhere, CVS, Giant, their store, etc.  All I have is a Dell part
number, which means nothing to him.  Should I do this - take out the battery
and see if I can find it at one of these places - or just leave computer
running until my Dell replacement battery comes?  Or might the problem be
something else beyond just the CMOS battery?  Don't have another computer,
so have to use this one for now for work, etc.

Randall

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
> are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you are
> speaking of power supply?...
>
> Confused...
>
> Marcio
>
>
> At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
>> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've
>> ordered
>> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this
>> point,
>> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all
>> the
>> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
>> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in
>> their
>> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get
>> one
>> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
>> ordered an extra for a back up.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
>> > simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
>> > time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the
>> battery
>> > > runs low.
>> >
>> > > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>> > >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It
>> either
>> > >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>As I see it, such a car would be owner-driven except when on the highway.
>This way, the motorist could potentially enjoy all the testosterone-driven
>thrills associated with today's model, but would also enjoy improved
>safety, reduced insurance costs, and an enjoyable commute during which
>they might be able to achieve some objective other than transportation

As I see it, taking the car off of computer control would be an illegal 
act with long prison sentences for violation. The central traffic 
authority would route you in a way that would minimize congestion for the 
greater public good  and keep you out of zones in which your presence was 
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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Devices

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>These "subscription" services do not levy  
>a charge upon the purchaser of the radio as far as I know, but you are  
>stuck with whatever service comes with the radio.  The stations  
>carried by each service can change over time, and there are many  
>duplications between the differing services.  You should be able to  
>ascertain which service a particular brand of radio uses and be able  
>to find out what stations that service carries, at least at the moment.

iTunes lets you add streams that it does not list. It is strange that a 
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro

Funny, the batteries in my generic computers ate 2025 or 2032 and they
are found everywhere. Are we talking about the same batteries. Or you are
speaking of power supply?...

Confused...

Marcio

At 11:41 14/10/2008, you wrote:

Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've ordered
the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this point,
since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all the
time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in their
database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get one
sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
ordered an extra for a back up.

Randall

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
> simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
> time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the battery
> > runs low.
>
> > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
> >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It either
> >>> runs or it doesn't.
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
>batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
>ordered an extra for a back up.

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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro

So, what makes you think that the vbattery is low? What are the signs?
I always used the date and time changes...

Marcio

At 21:18 13/10/2008, you wrote:

I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the battery
> runs low.

> At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
>>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It either
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Re: [CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice]

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>The day I knew Consumers Reports was totally biased and clueless was 
>when they reviewed an odd little car we owned, the 1980 Dodge Colt 
>[Plymouth Champ]. 

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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Keep in mind that the frequency the the stations are currently
>transmitting their digital signal on may change in Feb, 2009.

There is now talk of a 30-day delay.


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Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Anyone buy one yet? Do they get decent signals? Am looking at a list of 
>converters, but don't know which to choose. We live 25-50 miles from 
>broadcast towers and have 2 analog TVs.

Wikipedia has a great chart of CECB units with details about their 
innards.

I have an RCA DTA800B1 because my wife wanted "big buttons!". It is a 
basic unit that works well enough. The remote has a "universal" feature 
so it could be set to control the TV's on/off, volume, and mute, which is 
handy. It picks up most of the stations I get with my HDTV set. Both run 
off the same rooftop antenna which is about 5 miles and line of sight 
from my local stations. Neither will pick up the more distant (30 miles) 
analog station that came in fine as analog using just rabbit ears. Cost 
was $60 ($40 coupon + $20).

I also have a TIVAX STB-T9 but have not hooked it up yet.


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.03: Report Broken Website Broken?

2008-10-14 Thread Tony B
I only tried one; it opened fine in Foxit Reader. Remember, FF doesn't
actually display pdf's, so it may not be a FF problem. Did you try
saving them before opening them?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Richard P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having some trouble opening some PDF's in Firefox at Cannondale's
> Tech Center:
> http://www.cannondale.com/tech_center/accessories/cyclinggear.html
> The links open up fine in IE8. Other PDF's have no trouble using FF.
> When I went to report this using Firefox's "Report broken website"
> tool, I find that the "Submit Report" is grayed out, not allowing me
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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Tony B
As long as all the fans are functioning there's no danger in leaving
the machine on all the time. It's just a waste of power. But you
really shouldn't have to do that. At worst, you might have to go into
the BIOS and select "load safe defaults" on each boot.

Bad idea ordering the extra. As you've seen in this thread, it's rare
to have to replace these even once during the lifetime of a computer.
And we still have no idea if this actually has anything to do with
your problem.


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
> turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've ordered
> the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this point,
> since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all the
> time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
> Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in their
> database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get one
> sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
> batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
> ordered an extra for a back up.


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Re: [CGUYS] Ars- Future of Driving

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>What auto industry?  Are you even paying attention?

You mean they aren't going to make any more? Gone the way of the 9-inch 
floppy? I guess we should take good care of the ones we have (like in 
Cuba).


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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-14 Thread Ranbo
Today it took turning the computer on and off about 10 times (and also
turning off power at surge protector) before it would boot up.  I've ordered
the battery from Dell but might take several days to get it.  At this point,
since it seems to be getting worse, should I just leave computer on all the
time, maybe in 'Standby,' until I get the new battery?  The nearby Radio
Shak doesn't have any in stock and isn't even showing this battery in their
database.  They said to try Batteries Plus in Rockville if I want to get one
sooner than the Dell order.  BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished
batteries.  The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last.  I
ordered an extra for a back up.

Randall

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I imagine it could stop for a while, then start again, which might
> simulate "running slow". But as someone mentioned, simply ensuring a
> time sync periodically would prevent you from ever noticing it.
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Funny, I have always noticed that it gets kind of crazy when the battery
> > runs low.
>
> > At 08:22 PM 10/13/2008, Robert wrote:
> >>> A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It either
> >>> runs or it doesn't.
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[CGUYS] Firefox 3.03: Report Broken Website Broken?

2008-10-14 Thread Richard P.
I am having some trouble opening some PDF's in Firefox at Cannondale's
Tech Center:
http://www.cannondale.com/tech_center/accessories/cyclinggear.html
The links open up fine in IE8. Other PDF's have no trouble using FF.
When I went to report this using Firefox's "Report broken website"
tool, I find that the "Submit Report" is grayed out, not allowing me
to report it. Anyone else notice this or am I missing something?

Firefox 3.03
WinXP SP3

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