Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
I would suggest changing the word force, to give them little option. No one can force me to do anything. I do it of my own free will. Now do they have an effect on the local economy and the local merchants, I think that is a valid and provable fact. (there have been studies that have shown it.) In many cases they leave some local merchants who make it only because they have a captive audience little choice but to shut their doors, or loose their shirts. In other cases, they take out the last brick that was holding up a shoddily run enterprise. It is not universal. In the example I showed earlier of my local situation, they helped take out the last brick of a Grocery Company (Winn-Dixie) that had a lot of problems. The grocery business is a low mark-up high volume industry. (By the way Walmart is not the only offender here, Super Targets and Super K-Marts are found in a number of locations and have the same effect, however Walmart has the lions share of those super stores.) Stewart At 05:11 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote: Ahh, so dismissive of Palin's people. If you don't know what it's like to live in a community where a Wal-Mart forces the closing of many of the local businesses, then stick with something you might know something about. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
Walmart did not drive anyone anywhere. What has happened is that in many small communities the merchants have been so used to doing what they please they were not ready to compete against Walmart. I happen to live in one of those communities of what you speak. (14K, next closest town, 25 miles 50K, Montgomery is 90 miles north) When I moved here, Walmart had just added their grocery store. We had Walmart, Winn-Dixie, Super Sav and Grocery Outlet. (The last two local stores.) Winn Dixie was gone within two years. Victim of their own problems. (Their prices were substantially higher.) There had been another grocery store in town but it lasted only a brief time. (Again a chain that ended up shrinking not expanding and then selling out) The other two locally owned grocery stores are still going strong. We still have two local dairy queens, and a smatering of other stores. We have one men's clothing store in town and he moans all the time about Walmart. Problem is I cannot afford to shop at his store, a pair of slacks cost $50 and up. (way out of my price range) The starting wage at most places around here is minimum wage. When merchants price their merchandise outside the capacity of the consumer to buy it, they shut their doors. Am I happy with the grocery store at my local Walmart? NO! I will not buy meats there, and it does not sell some lines I prefer. So I go to the other grocery stores in town and buy my stuff. But here is another factor in the mix. All I have to do is drive 20 miles to the south and I have even more choices for grocery shopping, and since I am down there at least once a week, plus the chain department stores are there, I can shop even more. That is what has killed local merchants. Too many choices and a lot of competition. One of the biggest mistakes many local merchants made was to compete directly against Walmart. Stupid. Find a niche and fill it. Walmart does not do a lot of things well, or great, so beat them at their own game. By the way I know all about competition. I am a very small fish in a very large market down here. I have to compete against every other church and we are not the flavor of the month. We could simple close our doors, change our style to be like everyone else, or do what we do best and stick around. (Guess which model we chose) Stewart At 06:40 PM 11/26/2008, you wrote: >Did you know that airlines regularly edit movies that get shown on airplanes? Yes some people do object to such editing. I think this is an example of something that is right on the edge of wrong or right. Airlines are not in the business of selling movies to passengers (at least not yet). You don't book a flight based on the movie. The movie is an incidental diversion provided as an accommodation. >You are free to shop wherever you want. Actually you are not. In many communities WalMart is the only option. WalMart drove everybody else out of business. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disconnecting...
I have Cox Cable in Annandale, Virginia, and a wired, not wireless D-Link DI-707P router. Shutting them down when my computers are not in use and restarting them later is no problem. In the startup process, I first start the cable modem, then the router, and then the computer I wish to use. But if for some reason I do it in a different order, it seems to work, although it may take somewhat longer for things to synchronize / mount. Fred Holmes At 12:53 PM 11/27/2008, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: >I have a Cablemodem and a Wireless Router. I am now trying to organize myself >to disconnect the electricity, especially >at night from my computer, printer, loudspeakers, etc, so as to save >electricity. Do you all think I can disconnect alto >the Cablemodem and the Router from the electricity and reconnect next >morning?... > >Many thanks > >Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
Ahh, so dismissive of Palin's people. If you don't know what it's like to live in a community where a Wal-Mart forces the closing of many of the local businesses, then stick with something you might know something about. Jeff Wright wrote: Actually you are not. In many communities WalMart is the only option. WalMart drove everybody else out of business. I would argue that these communities already had one foot on the commerce banana peel if this is all it took. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disconnecting...
the modem and routers i have can be disconnected. in fact, the standard troubleshoot by the cable company is to have one disconnect the router and the modem to procure a new connection. yours may be different, so call and ask them. At 12:53 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote: >I have a Cablemodem and a Wireless Router. I am now trying to organize myself >to disconnect the electricity, especially >at night from my computer, printer, loudspeakers, etc, so as to save >electricity. Do you all think I can disconnect alto >the Cablemodem and the Router from the electricity and reconnect next >morning?... > >Many thanks > >Marcio > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disconnecting...
> I have everything on "power strips". When I am done for the day, I just turn > off the power strips and then turn them on the next morning. It has worked > perfectly that way for several years. It also insures that the equipment is > off when I am not around, thus isolating it from power line surges and > "drop-outs". (And also insures that nobody is using my wireless connection > for Internet access.) I wouldn't assume that a turned off power strip will protect against lightning or surges. Unplugging is the only 100% sure way to protect against both. Even strips with surge protection only offer limited protection and most don't tell you when the MOVs in the strip no longer are effective either. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disconnecting...
> I have a Cablemodem and a Wireless Router. I am now trying to organize myself > to disconnect the electricity, especially > at night from my computer, printer, loudspeakers, etc, so as to save > electricity. Do you all think I can disconnect alto > the Cablemodem and the Router from the electricity and reconnect next > morning?... Unless your router doesn't store its configuration when you shut it down, there is no reason to avoid shutting down either. I suggest though that most cablemodems and routers draw little current compared to let's say your computer or depending upon your monitor your monitor. Still it should do no harm. Let me note too that unless you are actually doing the equivalent of unplugging them, the wall warts or equivalent may still be drawing some power. Finally you could always do an hour experiment and see if anything goes wrong, if you cannot detect any problems, you can assume it won't cause problems in the future. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disconnecting...
I have everything on "power strips". When I am done for the day, I just turn off the power strips and then turn them on the next morning. It has worked perfectly that way for several years. It also insures that the equipment is off when I am not around, thus isolating it from power line surges and "drop-outs". (And also insures that nobody is using my wireless connection for Internet access.) Mike Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: I have a Cablemodem and a Wireless Router. I am now trying to organize myself to disconnect the electricity, especially at night from my computer, printer, loudspeakers, etc, so as to save electricity. Do you all think I can disconnect alto the Cablemodem and the Router from the electricity and reconnect next morning?... Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Disconnecting...
I have a Cablemodem and a Wireless Router. I am now trying to organize myself to disconnect the electricity, especially at night from my computer, printer, loudspeakers, etc, so as to save electricity. Do you all think I can disconnect alto the Cablemodem and the Router from the electricity and reconnect next morning?... Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
> Apple does not have a history of doing such things unless under duress. That Apple won't allow anyone to legally virtualize OS X on *any* system is just another massive coincidence. Mind you, Apple is free do anything they want with their products or set up any business model they want, as far as I'm concerned. I think they're not all that smart for making such a decision, but it's not my place to set policy on its behalf. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
> When Apple sells something at the iTunes store, they tell you up front > that it has DRM. Walmart doesn't label their music or movies to tell > you that there are significant parts missing from the products. You don't > know until the package is open and not returnable. Does Apple really tell you that or do you have to dig to find out that info? I ask this seriously having never bought anything from iTunes. Does it present a box that says briefly states that music you are buying is crippled (in so many words) or is buried in an ULA? > You can't have consensual transactions leading to any kind of freedom > when the vendor is hiding important information from the buyers. That's > called fraud. Buyers need to know that the products are as advertised > or labeled. Agreed for the most part. But yet, you know this and still manage avoid Wal-Mart's products. You are still able to buy elsewhere. > What's this nonsense about servitude and morality? Morality or ethics has no role to play in the above? Greater knowledge _always_ leads to greater freedom? I don't disagree with the spirit of your statement, but the utility is a different matter. There can be so much knowledge available to sort through that it's rendered it moot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
Matthew S. Taylor wrote: Not strictly true. They require artists who wish to sell via their store to provide edited versions. Nothing evil about it, just a marketing decision that for them works. No one is forced to make an edit and Walmart is not forced, nor should any store be forced, to sell what they do not wish to sell. Freedom is a two way street. Matthew B * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
