Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
On May 4, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I go between both Firefox and IE. Opera handles file downloads better than other browsers. When I have 100s of MBs to download it works the best. Always use the best tool for the job. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
b_s-wilk > Regarding Flash, Adobe has a knack for buying good > programs and breaking, discontinuing, or overpricing > them. Have they created any of their own products > lately [in the past 15 years]? > Apple didn't entirely ban Flash anyway. They require > that apps for touch screens be developed using the > Apple SDK. Adobe refused to use the SDK or to make > Flash more open--it's totally proprietary. There's no > guarantee that Flash will work properly without > interfering with the underlying system. I don't know if there's a distinction there or not... > I don't like Flash. It's overused unnecessarily. It > doesn't belong on most web pages where simpler > non-proprietary code works better and > faster--contributes too much to the World Wide > Wait and crashes. I agree with this 100%. I also note the bit of hypocrisy where the Apple web site uses flash. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly The darn thing works better if you plug it in * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
On May 4, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? There are dozens of anti-virus programs for the PC and the difference between most of them is slight. The differences are also ever changing as upgrades add or subtract features and annoyances. I was recently looking at anti-virus options for a client. I looked at both McAfee and Trend (among others) and saw very little difference between them. Technically I like Bit Defender the best, but their USA support operation is horrible. It is so bad that I won't use the product. Some products have owners who poorly maintain their software and then go in for major rewrites when sales drop too low. An example of this is Norton, whose last update made the software good again. Some people insist on only using free software, even though virus definitions are not delivered as quickly. M$ offers a free product that ain't bad. So anybody who suggests dumping one anti-virus program for another should be telling you exactly why. Their reasons may not impress you. I would not bother swapping McAfee and Trend. There just isn't enough difference to matter. If you really cared about anti-virus you would not be using a virus- prone OS. Get a Mac and stop fretting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I've been using Trend Micro PC-Cillin for quite a few years and it has done the job. The only problem, kind of a big one, was that they majorly updated the program a little over a year ago and uninstalling the old program (necessary before installing the new one) was very complicated. Because I was having trouble with the uninstallation and was busy with other stuff at the time, I put off completing the job, and, of course, contracted a virus necessitating (or so I thought) reinstallation of the entire OS. This will not be a problem for you, unless Trend Micro does another similar upgrade in the next couple of years. Soon we PC users will all be running Windows 7 and hopefully these security issue will be but a bad memory. > -Original Message- > From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- > l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Mother Geek > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:37 PM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information? > > Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee > (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead > Have any of you used this successfully? Is there > something else you'd recommend? > > Thank you. > /gayley knight > > > *** > ** > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy > ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ > ** > *** > ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I will check that one out. I have been using Avast Home. Stewart At 04:48 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote: I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: > Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee > (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead < > www.trendmicro.com> Have any of you used this successfully? Is there > something else you'd recommend? > -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: > Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee > (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead < > www.trendmicro.com> Have any of you used this successfully? Is there > something else you'd recommend? > -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? Thank you. /gayley knight * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
Apple hasn't announced they stopped using USB at all. App syncing? Apple in February didn't drop USB app syncing iPhones it asked developers to stop using a hack for doing so. And then announced Apple would officially support USB app syncing. So they haven't dropped anything, they increased support for USB. Overpricing? Apple has never been accused of that. Openness? Non-proprietary? This is Apple tea pot calling the kettle black. Is flash overused? Probably, but that's not adobe's fault, that's ignorant web developers. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:16 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > On May 4, 2010, at 2:16 AM, mike wrote: >> >>> A false argument, Apple supports all kinds of 'old technology', why does >>> Apple still put USB on their systems? >>> >> >> If you don't know that Apple is consistently the first to drop obsolete >> technologies you haven't been paying attention. You haven't even been >> reading the howls here about Apple dropping USB. >> > > Apple drops USB App syncing for iPhones, not desktops/notebooks, except for > its giant iPod. Since you can get your apps directly from the App Store on > your iPhone, this is no big deal. > > Did they announce they're dropping USB completely? No. > > Regarding Flash, Adobe has a knack for buying good programs and breaking, > discontinuing, or overpricing them. Have they created any of their own > products lately [in the past 15 years]? > > Apple didn't entirely ban Flash anyway. They require that apps for touch > screens be developed using the Apple SDK. Adobe refused to use the SDK or to > make Flash more open--it's totally proprietary. There's no guarantee that > Flash will work properly without interfering with the underlying system. > > I don't like Flash. It's overused unnecessarily. It doesn't belong on most > web pages where simpler nonproprietary code works better and > faster--contributes too much to the World Wide Wait and crashes. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
On May 4, 2010, at 2:16 AM, mike wrote: A false argument, Apple supports all kinds of 'old technology', why does Apple still put USB on their systems? If you don't know that Apple is consistently the first to drop obsolete technologies you haven't been paying attention. You haven't even been reading the howls here about Apple dropping USB. Apple drops USB App syncing for iPhones, not desktops/notebooks, except for its giant iPod. Since you can get your apps directly from the App Store on your iPhone, this is no big deal. Did they announce they're dropping USB completely? No. Regarding Flash, Adobe has a knack for buying good programs and breaking, discontinuing, or overpricing them. Have they created any of their own products lately [in the past 15 years]? Apple didn't entirely ban Flash anyway. They require that apps for touch screens be developed using the Apple SDK. Adobe refused to use the SDK or to make Flash more open--it's totally proprietary. There's no guarantee that Flash will work properly without interfering with the underlying system. I don't like Flash. It's overused unnecessarily. It doesn't belong on most web pages where simpler nonproprietary code works better and faster--contributes too much to the World Wide Wait and crashes. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
I go between both Firefox and IE. Occasionally I get a page with security (governmental web sites are notorious) that just do not function correctly with Firefox. Stewart At 12:23 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote: Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever remains at the top of the heap forever. No big surprise, really, especially considering the number of good and free web browser applications now available. I do not think that I am aware of any computer user who runs IE. It is either Firefox or Opera or Safari for the most part these days from what I see. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
> "For the first time since ... Whatever. I'd just like to point out that the continued use of the now decades-old "M$" has become so trite, so lame, so boring, so unimaginative, so repetitive. So silly. So utterly "Oh, give it a rest." So over. I'm just saying. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
Chrome just released another beta that is supposedly faster than anything previously released. Haven't tried it yet, I've stopped trying Opera, it does everything and none too well. Never really saw the point of Safari, tried it and it did weird things with tabs taking them out of user control. FF seems to be the standard at the moment for everyone I know, even mac users. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:23 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, tjpa wrote: > > > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/195532/browser_war_update_ie_takes_another_big_hit.html > > > > "For the first time since Internet Explorer 4 won over Netscape over 10 > > years ago, Microsoft's browser has dropped in usage to 59.95 per cent > market > > share in April this year. Internet Explorer had an 80 percent market > share > > less than two years ago." > > Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever > remains at the top of the heap forever. No big surprise, really, > especially considering the number of good and free web browser > applications now available. I do not think that I am aware of any > computer user who runs IE. It is either Firefox or Opera or Safari > for the most part these days from what I see. > > Steve > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, tjpa wrote: > http://www.pcworld.com/article/195532/browser_war_update_ie_takes_another_big_hit.html > > "For the first time since Internet Explorer 4 won over Netscape over 10 > years ago, Microsoft's browser has dropped in usage to 59.95 per cent market > share in April this year. Internet Explorer had an 80 percent market share > less than two years ago." Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever remains at the top of the heap forever. No big surprise, really, especially considering the number of good and free web browser applications now available. I do not think that I am aware of any computer user who runs IE. It is either Firefox or Opera or Safari for the most part these days from what I see. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues
http://www.pcworld.com/article/195532/browser_war_update_ie_takes_another_big_hit.html "For the first time since Internet Explorer 4 won over Netscape over 10 years ago, Microsoft's browser has dropped in usage to 59.95 per cent market share in April this year. Internet Explorer had an 80 percent market share less than two years ago." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Pennsylvania webcam spying
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM, mike wrote: > As said on first blush, this had nothing to do with security or getting a > laptop back and more about control and voyeurism. Let it not be ignored that as damning this report was for the Lower Merion School Board, the report was prepared by the school board's own hired attorneys and investigators. In the final analysis, the report contends that none of the authorized or unauthorized activations of webcams on computers issued to students rose to the level of "spying," even though what was done obviously fits the definition of spying in any sense of the use of the word. So, in order to protect the school system from the very essence of the lawsuit that it is facing, the school's investigators did pull their punches by refusing the apply the term "spy" or "spying" in their report. That being said, the report clearly maintains that abusive and invasive uses of those computers were rampant on the part of the school system and that they diligently attempted at every turn to prevent anyone other than the local police from discovering that they were using those school issued computers to compile data on the activities of various students in their most private of moments in their own homes. I am now curious to see if or when the local police will be drawn into the equation since they were willing participants in what clearly represents areas of intrusion that even they are prohibited from taking part in without warrant to do so. Perhaps this is something that the FBI investigators or Senator Arlen Specter will look into. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] CPCUG E&C SIG: Internet Law for Your Online Presence
=== Register for this FREE Event via e-mail to bc...@cpcug.org === Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Entrepreneurs and Consultants Special Interest Group (E&C SIG) (Meets the 3rd Saturday of most months) CLEVELAND PARK LIBRARY, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC ** Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:45-3:15 pm INTERNET LAW FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL ONLINE PRESENCE Speaker: Joy Butler, Attorney and Author Do you maintain an online presence as part of your professional and business life? Whether you blog, podcast, operate a Web site, publish an e-mail newsletter, or offer original content on a social networking site, you should know how to stay legal online and how to protect your online interests. In this presentation, attorney and author Joy R. Butler will discuss legal issues that arise during the establishment and maintenance of your online presence including-- o How to protect your original content and your domain name o How and when you can use other people's materials online o What your legal obligations are to your online visitors (e.g., privacy, spam, and so forth) Speaker: Joy R. Butler is an attorney with a private practice focusing on entertainment, intellectual property, and business law. A frequent speaker and writer on entertainment and business issues, Joy has previously presented for our CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG on "Intellectual Property and Licensing" and on "Forming Joint Ventures and Strategic Relationships." Joy is the author of _The Cyber Citizen's Guide Through the Legal Jungle: Internet Law for Your Professional Online Presence_ (forthcoming) and _The Permission Seeker's Guide Through the Legal Jungle: Clearing Copyrights, Trademarks and Other Rights for Your Entertainment and Media Productions_. Joy blogs about media and intellectual property law issues at http://www.GuideThroughtheLegalJungleblog.com and about business law issues at http://www.businesstransactionsblog.com. Joy is a graduate of Harvard Law School and Harvard College. For additional information on Joy Butler's law firm practice, visit http://www.joybutler.com/. For information on her books, visit http://www.GuideThroughtheLegalJungle.com. * Cleveland Park Library, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC (west side, between Macomb and Newark Streets) Metrorail: Cleveland Park Subway Station Red Line Connecticut Avenue, NW Just 1.5 blocks north of meeting site Parking: Street For additional Information about the CPCUG E&C SIG and its events (including any updates on topics, speakers, dates, times, and locations; agenda; area map; related Web links; and more), visit the CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG Web pages-- http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ These events are FREE and open to all. Advance RSVPs are requested for event planning and to let registrants know about any change in event date, location, topic, or speaker. To RSVP: Send e-mail to Barbara Conn, bc...@cpcug.org ** Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:45-3:15 pm INTERNET LAW FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL ONLINE PRESENCE Speaker: Joy Butler, Attorney and Author http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/510meet.html ** Dates/Times of Future Meetings: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 12:45-3:15 pm Topic and Speaker: To Be Announced *** Barbara Connbc...@cpcug.org Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) "Users Helping Users" Chair, CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ *** CONENT-D: CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG list for event announcements and discussion of business, technology, and computer hardware and software selection, setup, installation, maintenance, and upgrade (usually low volume) To subscribe: http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/index.html#listsub *** CPCUG E&C SIG Registration for FREE Events: Send e-mail to bc...@cpcug.org *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe Digital Editions
Maybe you could be a little more clear? Which is incorrect, it's not a runtime environment? It doesn't do ajax? Javascript...HTML? Flash? Or is it that you know I actually don't like the AIR based program I use? On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:34 AM, tjpa wrote: > On May 4, 2010, at 2:13 AM, mike wrote: > >> Air has nothing to do with Flash >> > > Do your homework before you post. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
No USB on imacs?? No USB on tower or Apple laptops? Let me know when Apple drops USB and starts using a wet interface. On May 4, 2010 6:42 AM, "tjpa" wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 2:16 AM, mike wrote: > > A false argument, Apple supports all kinds of 'old techn... If you don't know that Apple is consistently the first to drop obsolete technologies you haven't been paying attention. You haven't even been reading the howls here about Apple dropping USB. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe Digital Editions
On May 4, 2010, at 2:13 AM, mike wrote: Air has nothing to do with Flash Do your homework before you post. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App
On May 4, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: OK, what's the "big difference" between "If you want to do X you have to use our software" and what MS used to do? You mean "Vendor must pay for a Windows license for every unit sold even if Windows is not installed"? Has APple found a way to do this? Tell us more. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
On May 4, 2010, at 2:16 AM, mike wrote: A false argument, Apple supports all kinds of 'old technology', why does Apple still put USB on their systems? If you don't know that Apple is consistently the first to drop obsolete technologies you haven't been paying attention. You haven't even been reading the howls here about Apple dropping USB. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App
> There is a big difference between that and the stuff M$ used to do. OK, what's the "big difference" between "If you want to do X you have to use our software" and what MS used to do? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
