Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

Security updates via MS = idiot programmers Security updates via Apple = angelic programmers improving experience On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:10 PM, TJPA wrote: > Somehow in Mike's twisted logic, making improvements is a bad thing. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:21 PM, mike wrot

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

I do not agree. There are of course those Apple-hating IT types who want to maintain their bloated staffs. But the Apple advantage will be so obvious that normally silent business managers will start to question the bad judgement of those misguided IT types. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

Somehow in Mike's twisted logic, making improvements is a bad thing. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:21 PM, mike wrote: > Not so locked down, with iOS 4, Apple released over 60 security updates, * ** List info, su

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

That would be a great idea. I've read about fast boot computers that would launch a minimal version of Linux for basic use while WIndows continues to launch in the background. I don't know if anyone ever got past the concept phase into a commercial product though. You'd think that it would

Re: [CGUYS] The Fate of the Internet -- Decided in a Back Room

As was said this morning on a program discussing lobbying. It is a legalized form of bribery. Stewart At 08:58 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote: This is what a failed democracy looks like: After years of avid public support for Net Neutrality - involving millions of people from across the political sp

[CGUYS] The Fate of the Internet -- Decided in a Back Room

This is what a failed democracy looks like: After years of avid public support for Net Neutrality - involving millions of people from across the political spectrum - the federal regulator quietly huddles with industry lobbyists to eliminate basic protections and serve Wall Street's bottom line. ht

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 23 Jun 2010 to 24 Jun 2010 - Special issue (#2010-146)

You are way off base here. First, every manufacturer and not just Apple is increasingly moving in the direction of computers as appliances. To a certain extent, that has been the case for a while. You've had the gaming computer, the video editing computer, the basic work computer for typing,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM, TJPA wrote: > Correct, I wasn't, but you have just experienced another case of the same > phenomena. Strange assertions designed to create discord. I do not think that suppositions about what Apple Corp. may do in the future are indicative of attempts to creat

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

Not so locked down, with iOS 4, Apple released over 60 security updates, most to the web browser, many of which allowed remote execution of code...as in what allows remote users to take over the device. Now users of the first iphone and first gen touch wait to see if they will get the security fix

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

Actually, what iOS could do is sweep the business market. A locked down system is just what most IT managers want. A much larger iPad with a wireless keyboard may be the business computer of the future. After getting used to using an iPad it is somewhat frustrating to use an old fashioned compu

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

Correct, I wasn't, but you have just experienced another case of the same phenomena. Strange assertions designed to create discord. Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "phartz...@gmail.com" wrote: > I did not think that he was calling me an Apple hater. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:38 PM, mike wrote: > You are an Apple hater cause Tom says so...don't disagree with the Tom. I did not think that he was calling me an Apple hater. I think he was referring to some Apple developers who are saying that Apple may be on the verge of supplanting OS X wit

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

You are an Apple hater cause Tom says so...don't disagree with the Tom. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > > What I wrote was my personal opinion. I was not parroting what > others have said in the paragraph that you quoted. I am not an Apple > hater. > > I do not

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Apple will cede the "professional" market to Windows (why not?) and >> focus on computing devices of all sorts that offer more of an >> "everyperson" experience as opposed to a niche mark

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

I think you hit the wrong 'I hate MS', 'I hate MS users', button script with this one. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:20 AM, tjpa wrote: > > This is just the Apple haters bringing out their "Apple is going out of > business" drums. When the iPod was so very successful a few years ago they > were clai

Re: [CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations

I Like Irfanview: http://www.irfanview.com/ From: Richard P. To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 9:53:22 AM Subject: [CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations A friend needs recommendations for a simple photo editing software, p

Re: [CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations

I have been using IrfanView for many years, and it certainly does what your friend is looking for. And the price is right. Mike On 6/24/2010 11:30 AM, tjpa wrote: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pixelbasedwin/tp/freephotoedw.htm On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Rich

Re: [CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pixelbasedwin/tp/freephotoedw.htm On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Richard P. wrote: A friend needs recommendations for a simple photo editing software, preferably off-line. The most that he does is organize, re-size and group photos so that several will fit on a s

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Apple will cede the "professional" market to Windows (why not?) and focus on computing devices of all sorts that offer more of an "everyperson" experience as opposed to a niche market which has been their tradition for the most part. This

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Mail to Windows Live Mail

On 06/24/2010 09:22 AM, Terry Kilburg wrote: I meant will I lose the emails that i already downloaded but are in folders if i switch from Windows Mail to Thunderbird? You won't lose your prior mail unless you totally uninstall and delete Windows Live Mail. I played with Live Mail for abo

Re: [CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations

Picasa may work for him. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Richard P. wrote: > A friend needs recommendations for a simple photo editing software, > preferably off-line. The most that he does is organize, re-size and > group photos so that several will fit on a single sheet when printed. > Storag

[CGUYS] Picture editing software recommendations

A friend needs recommendations for a simple photo editing software, preferably off-line. The most that he does is organize, re-size and group photos so that several will fit on a single sheet when printed. Storage on his computer is a must, but on-line sharing in addition would be OK. Windows 7, 6

[CGUYS] Windows Mail to Windows Live Mail

I meant will I lose the emails that i already downloaded but are in folders if i switch from Windows Mail to Thunderbird? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a me

Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:40 AM, TJPA wrote: > Not likely, though it may become available as an option. I think it is highly likely. It is my personal belief, bolstered by recent Apple Corp. movement, that Apple is going in the direction of regarding computers, for marketing purposes, as bein