Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread Eric S. Sande
I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you. Providers determine that. They also decide where and what kinds of services they offer. As long as companies decide that nobody lives here and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum. Moving is not an option. You

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread tjpa
On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: You have to get over the idea of provider and get with the idea of it doesn't profit me to serve you at the same level I would someone who would actually pay my costs. The machine is not working in your direction, girlfriend. Are you not

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread mike
If telecoms want to up their legendary status of customer no service, being nationalized and run by the fed would be the final route to godlike status. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:47 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? I can see all

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread b_s-wilk
I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you. Providers determine that. They also decide where and what kinds of services they offer. As long as companies decide that nobody lives here and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum. Moving is not an option. You

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread Eric S. Sande
Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? No. I don't think so, anyway. But that's one solution. The telco has been nationalized in the past. It hardly hurt anyone and it benefitted rural areas. That was universal service. As long as it was, pardon me, landlines.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-09 Thread Eric S. Sande
[ever been to Lappland?] No. But technically DSL is a badly flawed technology from an economic standpoint. It requres the maintenance of a copper network which is very, very expensive. And becoming more so because most of these facilities are nearing or past the end of their service life.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-07 Thread b_s-wilk
Well, they could talk about technologies that aren't widely available to the general public. I'd be happy to discuss high bandwidth solutions...That's not exactly their mission, though. It's a fact that they aren't going to discuss what I offer. It's way too expensive for anyone but big

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In my line of work I also am given such choices. If I determine I want to be a pastor of such and such a congregation will even be told where I am going to live (A provided parsonage) Availability of services and type was never a given option. You take what you are given. NO ifs ands or

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
So I wouldn't throw away that old compass just yet. No, I wouldn't either. And I don't figure that most people have completely lost their minds as far as their best interests are concerned. Evidence to the contrary.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem to spend freakish amounts of time talking all things cell phone. Agreed. Yet, no one wants to admit that they have a jones for their cell phone? To wit, yesterday I was stopped at

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: We have a bad habit, in this country, of writing off old technologies as soon as something a little more advanced has been adopted by a small percentage of the American public. A lot of the older technology is the only

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread mike
And if yer lucky you end up on Discovery's 'Hoarders' show. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: There is the old adage that if you throw it away today, damn if you're not

[CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more accurately into the Cellphone Guys show. They really like to get heavily into discussion of all the latest cell phones. almost at times to the

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:33 PM   This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more accurately into the Cellphone Guys show. They really Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is indeed possible. Each device evolves to a point where it is superceded by another device. Plus circumstances dictate changes. Stewart At 10:17 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem to spend freakish amounts of time talking all things cell phone. Is it

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Computing has changed from an activity done while stationary to mobile computing. Devices have had to evolve. 15 years ago email was emerging. Today it has become common place. Just read an article today of ten items/devices you might not need this year. Landline phone was listed, along

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well, they could talk about technologies that aren't widely available to the general public. I'd be happy to discuss high bandwidth solutions. That's not exactly their mission, though. It's a fact that they aren't going to discuss what I offer. It's way too expensive for anyone but big

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-05 Thread Constance Warner
We have a bad habit, in this country, of writing off old technologies as soon as something a little more advanced has been adopted by a small percentage of the American public. And when a larger percentage of the population has started to use the new technology, we forget that the older