Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-10 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:20 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Did M$ PAY Carter for his design? They neglected to pay for some of  
the early fonts that they used.


They hired him to design a set of fonts for screen display. After he  
completed two M$ got a case of the cheaps and sent him packing. M$  
staff was told to complete the project on their own -- all downhill  
from there.



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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-09 Thread b_s-wilk

On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:16 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

Futura is more attractive than Verdana.  The real problem here is that IKEA
switched to a M$ font.  M$ a company that is not renown for really good
design.


Actually Verdana is one of two fonts that M$ had designed by Mathew Carter, who is renowned for really good design. 



I like Verdana as my default font for email and browsers. If it was 
weighted better, with better kerning and tracking, it would look better 
in print. It's a decent font, but not as clean as Futura. I prefer ITC 
Stone, which many would recognize in print, although they don't know the 
name.


Did M$ PAY Carter for his design? They neglected to pay for some of the 
early fonts that they used.



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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:28 AM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:16 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>
>> Futura is more attractive than Verdana.  The real problem here is that
>> IKEA
>> switched to a M$ font.  M$ a company that is not renown for really good
>> design.
>>
>
> Actually Verdana is one of two fonts that M$ had designed by Mathew Carter,
> who is renowned for really good design.
>
> I guess he had an off day but I prefer the sans serif slickness of Futura.

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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-08 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:16 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
Futura is more attractive than Verdana.  The real problem here is  
that IKEA
switched to a M$ font.  M$ a company that is not renown for really  
good

design.


Actually Verdana is one of two fonts that M$ had designed by Mathew  
Carter, who is renowned for really good design.



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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jeff Wright  wrote:

> > "The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
> > reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
> > font..."
> > http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/
>
> Bingo!  We have a winner.
>
> "IKEA spokeswoman Camilla Meiby responds to AP (Aug 31, 2009):
>
> We're surprised, but I think it's mainly experts who have expressed their
> views, people who are interested in fonts. I don't think the broad public
> is
> that interested."
>

Futura is more attractive than Verdana.  The real problem here is that IKEA
switched to a M$ font.  M$ a company that is not renown for really good
design.

>
> It's like worrying about what the Trekkies will think about the new brand
> of
> toilet paper on all Federation starships in the movies.
>
>
There are no bathrooms on Federation Starships- Hence no TP.
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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
> "The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
> reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
> font..."
> http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/

Bingo!  We have a winner.

"IKEA spokeswoman Camilla Meiby responds to AP (Aug 31, 2009): 

We're surprised, but I think it's mainly experts who have expressed their
views, people who are interested in fonts. I don't think the broad public is
that interested."

It's like worrying about what the Trekkies will think about the new brand of
toilet paper on all Federation starships in the movies.


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[CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-06 Thread tjp
"The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,  
reveals the company’s choice to change all typography to the Microsoft  
font..."

http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/





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