Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
>Is MacJanitor still your utility of choice for "cleaning up" the Mac? MacJanitor is just a way to run the three periodic maintenance scripts on demand. It works fine for this. But it may no longer be needed. Starting in Tiger Apple replaced a tangle of UNIX methods (cron etc.) with a single, unified launcher called launchd (launchd daemon). It is in dispute whether launchd fixes the problem of "missed" events. This grousing may be from old UNIX hands who seem to hate it when anything is changed. Looking at my Mac it looks to me that launchd does the job. YMMV. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Betty said" Paula - Did you download the update, then install it? Or did you do the automatic update online? Sometimes there are glitches in transmission of the installer files that wouldn't happen if you download and install locally. I always download updates first, then install locally. No, I did the autoupdate. I"ll download them first from now on.and wait a long time before doing it. I have not updated itunes to the one that came out a month or so ago because I had heard of problems with it. But, the software I have the most problem with IS my iTunes so I think I may have to do the upgrade. My USB ports show up correctly in System Profiler with one external hd on one and the USB port extender with various other items on it. But my second hd that is plugged into the 4 port extender doesn't show up. All of this worked fine before the update so that's why I linked it to that. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Tom, Is MacJanitor still your utility of choice for "cleaning up" the Mac? >Not before but after reinstalling the 10.9 update I repaired permissions. Not after installing those security "fixes" tho. I have most stuff backed up. It will take hours or days to back up any further to the external drives since anything going thru USB is a drop at a time. But I think I can back up over my network to my laptop so will do that next. Sometimes updates do break things, but when this happens we usually see a flood of problem reports. I have not seen that. Typically running the update is the proximate cause, but not the real cause. Something was askew just waiting for a nudge to become a problem. I just had a terrible problem last weekend where a folder with 60GB of client files vanished. I spent a couple hours at command line trying to make the folder visible. Then I did the simple, dumb thing: ran disk utility. That fixed everything. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
>Not before but after reinstalling the 10.9 update I repaired >permissions. Not after installing those security "fixes" tho. I have >most stuff backed up. It will take hours or days to back up any further >to the external drives since anything going thru USB is a drop at a >time. But I think I can back up over my network to my laptop so will do >that next. Sometimes updates do break things, but when this happens we usually see a flood of problem reports. I have not seen that. Typically running the update is the proximate cause, but not the real cause. Something was askew just waiting for a nudge to become a problem. Paula - Did you download the update, then install it? Or did you do the automatic update online? Sometimes there are glitches in transmission of the installer files that wouldn't happen if you download and install locally. I always download updates first, then install locally. Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
At 5:51 PM -0400 4/25/07, Michael Lewis wrote: Paula Minor sez: Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. System Profiler in your Utilities folder (in Applications) should give you full information about your system, including if USB ports are present and if anything is attached to them. Or click on "About This Mac" in the Apple menu, then click on the "More Info" button. That is easier than wading around in the Application folder. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Paula Minor sez: >Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on >a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. >But I could have on my pc. System Profiler in your Utilities folder (in Applications) should give you full information about your system, including if USB ports are present and if anything is attached to them. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...was, Slow USB after update
It sounds like the USB has gone back a step. How much memory does the machine have? 2.5 GB From your description, it sounds as if just the USB devices are affected, none of the other systems, right? right. Thank you for your detailed description of the course to take. I'll have to get a firewire cable to connect the two to try it out. Right now it is working better but I will get the cable to have at hand in case it slows down again. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
spent a couple hours at command line trying to make the folder visible. Then I did the simple, dumb thing: ran disk utility. That fixed everything. Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Are you running AV software; No have you repaired permissions after installing the update? Yes Have you tried a Firewire transfer from one computer to the other? Your No. They transfer fine wirelessly thru the network but I don't want to put photos from the flash cards on the laptop first just to transfer them to the iMac. ANd I can't transfer iTunes material that way. Clearing the PRAM seems to have helped. Photo transfer from cards is a lot better but updating the iPod is still very slow. I"ll keep working on it tho. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
>Not before but after reinstalling the 10.9 update I repaired >permissions. Not after installing those security "fixes" tho. I have >most stuff backed up. It will take hours or days to back up any further >to the external drives since anything going thru USB is a drop at a >time. But I think I can back up over my network to my laptop so will do >that next. Sometimes updates do break things, but when this happens we usually see a flood of problem reports. I have not seen that. Typically running the update is the proximate cause, but not the real cause. Something was askew just waiting for a nudge to become a problem. I just had a terrible problem last weekend where a folder with 60GB of client files vanished. I spent a couple hours at command line trying to make the folder visible. Then I did the simple, dumb thing: ran disk utility. That fixed everything. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Macs don't break ...was, Slow USB after update
Paula, It sounds like the USB has gone back a step. How much memory does the machine have? >From your description, it sounds as if just the USB devices are affected, none of the other systems, right? Use the System Profiler and check that the USB subsystem chain is checking out at USB 2 speeds for the bus and the devices. Also, to check if the OSX is the culprit it becomes interesting. 1) Put your laptop in Firewire 'Target' mode 2) Attach the FW Target mode laptop to the iMac via Firewire. 3) Use the Startup Disk section (control panel) of the System Preferences and choose the external version of OS X on the laptop as your startup disk. (this is the version that has not been updated) Boot the computer from that external disk. 4) Test the USB device transfer speed by hooking a device up to the USB port on the iMac. If the USB transfer rates are back to normal, then you've narrowed it down. The converse can be tested by flipping it. Put the iMac in Target mode and boot the laptop from the OS X volume on the iMac. If the laptop USB runs slower, then the files that make up OS X on the iMac are the culprit. This is step one, to verify that it is the OS X on your iMac that is affecting the USB subsystem speed. If it is not, then we have to look at if there was a firmware update or the USB itself. Start with the Target mode FW boot test first and let us know what the results are. Oh, and the FW Target mode can help speed up the backup for the iMac as well, unless you are using gigabit ethernet. Rocky *** Date:Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:08:40 -0400 From:Paula Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Macs don't break ...was (Re: [CGUYS] Tinkerers in the treehouse) betty said: > Macs last a long time. They don't break, generally. Yeah, well,maybe. Unless Apple breaks it for you. I updated my iMac G5 with the latest security updates and now EVERYTHING that needs to be transferred to or from it via USB connection (memory cards, podcasts from itunes to iPod, backups to ext. drives) takes HOURS to transfer and one backup drive doesn't even mount. Visits to the discussion groups at Apple haven't helped. Only one person with suggestionsreinstall the 10.9 combo updater.has offered help and it didn't work. He now suggests clearing the PRAM but I'm worried about doing it and finding that it won't boot at all. It will take me days at this rate to back everything up since just one MS of pics can take 6-8 hrs to transfer. I've been putting the pics on my MacBook Pro and transferring over the network and that works fine but it's extra steps..and doens't solve the problem of updating the iPod since all my music, tv and podcasts are on the iMac. Needless to say, I won't be applying those security updates to my laptop. Shades of Bill Gates! Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Paula, I have not experienced problems after an upgrade (I am still at latest version of 10.3.9 with current patches - waiting for 10.5 to come out) on a G5 desktop and a G4 laptop. Your slow file transfers baffle me, though. Are you running AV software; have you repaired permissions after installing the update? Have you tried a Firewire transfer from one computer to the other? Your computer manual should have a detailed description of this easy connection, boot to target mode and transferring files from one computer to the other. Mark Snyder -Original Message- Not before but after reinstalling the 10.9 update I repaired permissions. Not after installing those security "fixes" tho. I have most stuff backed up. It will take hours or days to back up any further to the external drives since anything going thru USB is a drop at a time. But I think I can back up over my network to my laptop so will do that next. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Did you repair permissions before and after installing the update? Did you run Yasu first? Did you back up your drives? Not before but after reinstalling the 10.9 update I repaired permissions. Not after installing those security "fixes" tho. I have most stuff backed up. It will take hours or days to back up any further to the external drives since anything going thru USB is a drop at a time. But I think I can back up over my network to my laptop so will do that next. I've found that MacFixit is one of the best resources for troubleshooting Macs. Also, I rarely apply an update before searching for possible conflicts and problems first. I haven't updated from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9 yet; this version works perfectly well. I don't like to add software, even security updates, without waiting for error reports, http://macfixit.com/, http://www.macfixit.com/article.php? story=20070423093555664. YeaI usually do that too. But, was in a hurry and having never had a problem with updates, I just did it. Won't make that mistake again. Yes you can clear the PRAM [or whatever it's called on new Macs] without worrying. I don't think that will make a difference but I'll try it. The hardware didn't break did it? No. I moved the card readers to my laptop and they work just fine. So does my iPod. I guess if I can't get this machine to work again for this type of stuff I'll have to start downloading all my podcasts to my laptop. But tv shows that I get are set to this machine and I can't move them. I almost wish mine would so I could justify buying another new Mac. I keep downloading the nightly builds for Mozilla which claims, "...Mozilla might crash on startup. It might delete all your files and cause your computer to burst into flames..." but all I get is new software bugs. Betty When I decide it's time for a new one.and IF I can afford it .I see if one of my kids or a friend is interested in the one being retired. Right now my husband is trying s hard to rationalize buying a macbook for himself. His Toshiba laptop works fine except it suddenly stopped connecting to the network. He doesn't really need it to connect but.he's thinking it might be a good enough excuse to buy that macbook. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Paula, Did you repair permissions before and after installing the update? Did you run Yasu first? Did you back up your drives? I've found that MacFixit is one of the best resources for troubleshooting Macs. Also, I rarely apply an update before searching for possible conflicts and problems first. I haven't updated from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9 yet; this version works perfectly well. I don't like to add software, even security updates, without waiting for error reports, http://macfixit.com/, http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20070423093555664. Yes you can clear the PRAM [or whatever it's called on new Macs] without worrying. The hardware didn't break did it? I almost wish mine would so I could justify buying another new Mac. I keep downloading the nightly builds for Mozilla which claims, "...Mozilla might crash on startup. It might delete all your files and cause your computer to burst into flames..." but all I get is new software bugs. Betty Macs last a long time. They don't break, generally. Yeah, well,maybe. Unless Apple breaks it for you. I updated my iMac G5 with the latest security updates and now EVERYTHING that needs to be transferred to or from it via USB connection (memory cards, podcasts from itunes to iPod, backups to ext. drives) takes HOURS to transfer and one backup drive doesn't even mount. Visits to the discussion groups at Apple haven't helped. Only one person with suggestionsreinstall the 10.9 combo updater.has offered help and it didn't work. He now suggests clearing the PRAM but I'm worried about doing it and finding that it won't boot at all. It will take me days at this rate to back everything up since just one MS of pics can take 6-8 hrs to transfer. I've been putting the pics on my MacBook Pro and transferring over the network and that works fine but it's extra steps..and doens't solve the problem of updating the iPod since all my music, tv and podcasts are on the iMac. Needless to say, I won't be applying those security updates to my laptop. Shades of Bill Gates! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Macs don't break ...was (Re: [CGUYS] Tinkerers in the treehouse)
betty said: Macs last a long time. They don't break, generally. Yeah, well,maybe. Unless Apple breaks it for you. I updated my iMac G5 with the latest security updates and now EVERYTHING that needs to be transferred to or from it via USB connection (memory cards, podcasts from itunes to iPod, backups to ext. drives) takes HOURS to transfer and one backup drive doesn't even mount. Visits to the discussion groups at Apple haven't helped. Only one person with suggestionsreinstall the 10.9 combo updater.has offered help and it didn't work. He now suggests clearing the PRAM but I'm worried about doing it and finding that it won't boot at all. It will take me days at this rate to back everything up since just one MS of pics can take 6-8 hrs to transfer. I've been putting the pics on my MacBook Pro and transferring over the network and that works fine but it's extra steps..and doens't solve the problem of updating the iPod since all my music, tv and podcasts are on the iMac. Needless to say, I won't be applying those security updates to my laptop. Shades of Bill Gates! Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a wonderful day! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
