Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
Quoting db db...@att.net: Can anyone tell me what probably occurred and what are the best procedures for securing iChat/ AIM that won't also block the LogMeIn remote login that I use to give him lessons? I don't have an actual answer for you (sorry), but this might be worth a trip to an Apple store to let a genius figure it out, or perhaps wipe his system and restore. If he's still figuring out the mouse he can't possibly have that much important data on there. Is this a refurbed Mac? How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going? And if he's in the habit of roaming around the house in his birthday suit, he might want to put a piece of tape over the camera lens. (-: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:44 PM, db wrote: Currently he has no use whatsoever for iChat (he's just learning to mouse about, read emails etc... he hasn't even sent an email yet...) and I'd like to make sure his computer and iChat are secure and impervious to more of the same. http://basics4mac.com/article.php/ichat_privacy You can set various levels of privacy in iChat that determine who can chat with you. To set your privacy level, go to Preferences and choose the Accounts pane and then the Security tab. You can choose from any of these five options: * Allow anyone * Allow people on my Buddy List * Allow specific people * Block everyone * Block specific people Anyone who is allowed to chat with you can also see your availability (available / away / offline). Anyone who is blocked will always see you as offline. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Reid Katan wrote: How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going? iChat uses the AIM network. So no surprise there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com: On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Reid Katan wrote: How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going? iChat uses the AIM network. So no surprise there. What I was wondering is, basically, do Macs come with iChat/AIM accounts set up? That seems like something he would have to enable. I've had my iBook for about a year so far (bought refurbed with OSX.4 from Geeks.com) and no one has tried to iChat with me. . .hmm, maybe that's saying more about me than my computer. )-: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
It's a new computer and the most he might have done was accidentally clicked on the iChat icon on the Dock (he says he didn't..) ... which could have launched the program. Somehow it got launched. (I think maybe iChat gets automatically launched if you access the camera or microphone). (Interestingly, most people's Macs I come across have many programs running because they normally only close windows and don't realize the programs are still running.) Once it was running maybe his computer was visible to AIM by default and people contacted him via AIM launching those chat windows? That seems like a bad situation if that is the default. Does anyone know? What was the exploit that was in the news a while back about Macs and iChat/ camera and microphone? db Reid Katan wrote: Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com: On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Reid Katan wrote: How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going? iChat uses the AIM network. So no surprise there. What I was wondering is, basically, do Macs come with iChat/AIM accounts set up? That seems like something he would have to enable. I've had my iBook for about a year so far (bought refurbed with OSX.4 from Geeks.com) and no one has tried to iChat with me. . .hmm, maybe that's saying more about me than my computer. )-: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
db wrote: It's a new computer and the most he might have done was accidentally clicked on the iChat icon on the Dock (he says he didn't..) ... which could have launched the program. Somehow it got launched. (I think maybe iChat gets automatically launched if you access the camera or microphone). (Interestingly, most people's Macs I come across have many programs running because they normally only close windows and don't realize the programs are still running.) Once it was running maybe his computer was visible to AIM by default and people contacted him via AIM launching those chat windows? That seems like a bad situation if that is the default. Does anyone know? What was the exploit that was in the news a while back about Macs and iChat/ camera and microphone? Not to call anyone a lier or anything but from long experience, older people, my mother and others, may do some surprising stuff on the computer, and either not realize it or forget about it. Or they get someone to help them with the computer and forget. There are simply no other explanations for some of the stuff I've seen on her computer, and others. I had the same experience when I was supervising inexperienced CNC machine operators. You can burn a lot of time trying to figure out how something happened, but sometimes you just have to let it go. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Reid Katan wrote: What I was wondering is, basically, do Macs come with iChat/AIM accounts set up? That seems like something he would have to enable. I've had my iBook for about a year so far (bought refurbed with OSX. 4 from Geeks.com) and no one has tried to iChat with me. . .hmm, maybe that's saying more about me than my computer. )-: Not set up, but starting iChat will start a sign up process. You answer a few questions and you have an account set up for you,. It is not like the old days when it took several days of reading manuals, downloading software, patching, configuring, cursing. reinstalling, reconfiguring, and more cursing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
Does that mean that that's only way the login.oscar.aol.com account that I found on his machine could have gotten installed in iChat preferences next to the Bonjour acct? I tend to agree with your experience but in this case my uncle can't type, has trouble clicking on the right button instead of the left (I got him a MS mouse because he had too much trouble with the Apple mouse) and he doesn't even know anyone by the name of Oscar, no less had them over his house. He's older... nobody comes to visit but his daughter who is a busy professional ... not the chat type and doesn't hang around when she visits ... and has an iPhone with her when she comes. Can I chase down oscar.aol.com on my own by other means to see if it is someone he knows? (I know nothing about Chat ... I have 0 experience since about 10 years ago when I experimented with it briefly ...) db Jordan wrote: db wrote: It's a new computer and the most he might have done was accidentally clicked on the iChat icon on the Dock (he says he didn't..) ... which could have launched the program. Somehow it got launched. (I think maybe iChat gets automatically launched if you access the camera or microphone). (Interestingly, most people's Macs I come across have many programs running because they normally only close windows and don't realize the programs are still running.) Once it was running maybe his computer was visible to AIM by default and people contacted him via AIM launching those chat windows? That seems like a bad situation if that is the default. Does anyone know? What was the exploit that was in the news a while back about Macs and iChat/ camera and microphone? Not to call anyone a lier or anything but from long experience, older people, my mother and others, may do some surprising stuff on the computer, and either not realize it or forget about it. Or they get someone to help them with the computer and forget. There are simply no other explanations for some of the stuff I've seen on her computer, and others. I had the same experience when I was supervising inexperienced CNC machine operators. You can burn a lot of time trying to figure out how something happened, but sometimes you just have to let it go. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
At 1:07 PM -0700 8/23/09, db wrote: [snip] Can I chase down oscar.aol.com on my own by other means to see if it is someone he knows? The oscar is not a person's name; it is the name of the normal, everyday AIM server. It was set up automatically. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Mysterious iChat / AIM messages transcripts appearing on iMac desktop ?
An uncle of mine who lives by himself and just bought his first computer... a new Leopard iMac... reported that there were mysterious windows showing on his desktop when he would wake the computer up to check his email (He doesn't turn it off...). I live on the opposite side of the country so I logged on via LogMeIn and found that there currently were three iChat / AIM transcripts ... not really transcripts of two way conversation but 3 different strangers saying hello basically. Under iChat preferences besides a Bonjour acct., there also was a login.oscar.aol.com account operating on port 5190. I deleted the account but am very curious how it could have gotten there... I've heard of hackers surreptitiously using iChat, microphone and camera to spy on people etc and was wondering if this was what was going on ... or worse... ? Currently he has no use whatsoever for iChat (he's just learning to mouse about, read emails etc... he hasn't even sent an email yet...) and I'd like to make sure his computer and iChat are secure and impervious to more of the same. Can anyone tell me what probably occurred and what are the best procedures for securing iChat/ AIM that won't also block the LogMeIn remote login that I use to give him lessons? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
