Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
How does this apply to contracts for a limited time period rather than lifetime? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been out of town... and missed this conversation... the responses > were off track. > > The TiVo lifetime contract is a gamble... $300 and no monthly payments, but > only for the lifetime of your DVR. TiVo currently only offers lifetime > contracts for the newer HD DVR's (Series 3) (works with older TV's as well). > The Lifetime contract is for the life of the unit you purchased.. more > specifically the ID in the BIOS chip on the motherboard. There is a third > party company that will fix your TiVo, even down to transferring the TiVo > units ID number to another motherboard if necessary, but this is at your > expense (usually around $100 to $200 depending on the problem). I have used > them to reimage the HDD in the past.. they also provide replacment and > upgrade HDD's for your TiVo already loaded with the TiVo software. > > - Brian > (2) series II TiVo's upgraded to 300 hours, one with lifetime contract > > >> We have gone for a while with no contract, just monthly payments (at >> full freight). I would like to set up a contract, but before doing >> so, I would like to know what would happen if our current box were to >> fail or become woefully obsolete (I am assuming it can't handle HD) >> before the end of the contract. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
I have been out of town... and missed this conversation... the responses were off track. The TiVo lifetime contract is a gamble... $300 and no monthly payments, but only for the lifetime of your DVR. TiVo currently only offers lifetime contracts for the newer HD DVR's (Series 3) (works with older TV's as well). The Lifetime contract is for the life of the unit you purchased.. more specifically the ID in the BIOS chip on the motherboard. There is a third party company that will fix your TiVo, even down to transferring the TiVo units ID number to another motherboard if necessary, but this is at your expense (usually around $100 to $200 depending on the problem). I have used them to reimage the HDD in the past.. they also provide replacment and upgrade HDD's for your TiVo already loaded with the TiVo software. - Brian (2) series II TiVo's upgraded to 300 hours, one with lifetime contract We have gone for a while with no contract, just monthly payments (at full freight). I would like to set up a contract, but before doing so, I would like to know what would happen if our current box were to fail or become woefully obsolete (I am assuming it can't handle HD) before the end of the contract. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
>So if I replace the box, I can stay within the existing contract, even >if I go to HD? Sorry if my original question was not well phrased. I have read on the tivocommunity.com site that they sometimes will let you roll over your contract to a new box. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, John Emmerling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Apparently some set-top boxes provided by satellite companies accept a > serial connection from the TiVo by which they can be tuned. Why > satellite supports this, but not cable, I don't know (some subtle > difference in the business model?). DirecTV has old TiVO based satellite receivers on the network. There was a recent deal between DirecTV and TiVO that will put the TiVO software back on the system in a year or two. I'm not sure if they will put the TiVO software on the current DTV recievers, new hardware or both. > > > I don't know about FiOS, however I believe the DVR comes automatically > with FiOS service, so maybe then using a TiVo would be a waste. If the FIOS DVR were better I might agree with you. The navigation is clunky at best. The capacity isn't all that big and there is no expansion path. I use the thing but I prefer my TiVO's too bad they are DirecTV boxes. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
Apparently some set-top boxes provided by satellite companies accept a serial connection from the TiVo by which they can be tuned. Why satellite supports this, but not cable, I don't know (some subtle difference in the business model?). I don't know about FiOS, however I believe the DVR comes automatically with FiOS service, so maybe then using a TiVo would be a waste. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Modern Series 3 TiVos have slots two cable cards which will allow it to tune > your cable system as if you were using a set top box and I believe that the > cable companies are required by the feds to offer them if requested. You > may need to ask a few times but they should have them. There is a dual > cable card that controls both channels in one card so you can have a full > featured TiVo. I know FIOS has cable cards I asked the installer last month > but he hadn't seen the dual one yet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
Modern Series 3 TiVos have slots two cable cards which will allow it to tune your cable system as if you were using a set top box and I believe that the cable companies are required by the feds to offer them if requested. You may need to ask a few times but they should have them. There is a dual cable card that controls both channels in one card so you can have a full featured TiVo. I know FIOS has cable cards I asked the installer last month but he hadn't seen the dual one yet. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM, John Emmerling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > TiVo most definitely works with Comcast. I just got a new set-top box > (non-HD) from Comcast and set up our existing TiVo to work with it. I > had previously done the same at a friend's house. > > Two things to know: > > 1.) You will need to attach two IR transmitters to your Comcast box > which allow the TiVo to pretend to be a remote control so it can > change channels. You can still control the Comcast box directly with > the remote that comes with it. These should have come with your TiVo, > but if misplaced (as were ours) you can order from the TiVo site, as I > just did. > 2.) You will have to go through Guided Setup on the TiVo from the > beginning. No shortcuts available. > > What I just said may possibly not apply if either a.) your TiVo is > really old and maybe doesn't support the IR transmitters or b.) > Comcast is distributing some really weird boxes in your area that > aren't supported. Ours are Scientific Atlanta, I forget the model. > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get the feeling that Cable companies are trying to break Tivo's hold on > > recording TV programs by requiring the set top boxes. > > > > You would have to check with your local cable company and Tivo for that > > answer. > > > > Stewart > > > > > > At 10:36 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: > >> > >> Does TIVO work with Comcast? I have two DVRs that have pretty much been > >> turned into recording units with mimimal TV functionality since they > moved > >> all the channels up to the 100 plus range and required the boxes to > decode > >> the signal. > >> mike > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
I get the feeling that Cable companies are trying to break Tivo's hold on recording TV programs by requiring the set top boxes. You would have to check with your local cable company and Tivo for that answer. Stewart At 10:36 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: Does TIVO work with Comcast? I have two DVRs that have pretty much been turned into recording units with mimimal TV functionality since they moved all the channels up to the 100 plus range and required the boxes to decode the signal. mike Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
TiVo most definitely works with Comcast. I just got a new set-top box (non-HD) from Comcast and set up our existing TiVo to work with it. I had previously done the same at a friend's house. Two things to know: 1.) You will need to attach two IR transmitters to your Comcast box which allow the TiVo to pretend to be a remote control so it can change channels. You can still control the Comcast box directly with the remote that comes with it. These should have come with your TiVo, but if misplaced (as were ours) you can order from the TiVo site, as I just did. 2.) You will have to go through Guided Setup on the TiVo from the beginning. No shortcuts available. What I just said may possibly not apply if either a.) your TiVo is really old and maybe doesn't support the IR transmitters or b.) Comcast is distributing some really weird boxes in your area that aren't supported. Ours are Scientific Atlanta, I forget the model. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get the feeling that Cable companies are trying to break Tivo's hold on > recording TV programs by requiring the set top boxes. > > You would have to check with your local cable company and Tivo for that > answer. > > Stewart > > > At 10:36 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: >> >> Does TIVO work with Comcast? I have two DVRs that have pretty much been >> turned into recording units with mimimal TV functionality since they moved >> all the channels up to the 100 plus range and required the boxes to decode >> the signal. >> mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
Does TIVO work with Comcast? I have two DVRs that have pretty much been turned into recording units with mimimal TV functionality since they moved all the channels up to the 100 plus range and required the boxes to decode the signal. mike Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Depends on your contract with them and you will have to talk to them. I bought my first box on a years contract, at a discount. After that I go month to month. I bought my second box on the secondary market (Red Ebay) and am strictly on a month to month contract with it. I am not sure what you mean by contract with TIVO unless you mean a lifetime contract. If this is the case you will need to talk to them about this. I do know that if a box fails you are responsible for fixing it. There is no other warranty I know of except the new box warranty. By the way check their site they usually have some refurbs for sale. Stewart At 09:40 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: So if I replace the box, I can stay within the existing contract, even if I go to HD? Sorry if my original question was not well phrased. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- *Mike Drabick HDH Construction Consultants, Inc 200 Harry S. Truman Parkway Suite 220 Annapolis, MD 21401 410-571-1100 410-571-1177 Fax* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
Depends on your contract with them and you will have to talk to them. I bought my first box on a years contract, at a discount. After that I go month to month. I bought my second box on the secondary market (Red Ebay) and am strictly on a month to month contract with it. I am not sure what you mean by contract with TIVO unless you mean a lifetime contract. If this is the case you will need to talk to them about this. I do know that if a box fails you are responsible for fixing it. There is no other warranty I know of except the new box warranty. By the way check their site they usually have some refurbs for sale. Stewart At 09:40 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: So if I replace the box, I can stay within the existing contract, even if I go to HD? Sorry if my original question was not well phrased. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
So if I replace the box, I can stay within the existing contract, even if I go to HD? Sorry if my original question was not well phrased. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are responsible for the box. > > I have two series 2's. > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] TiVo question
You are responsible for the box. I have two series 2's. Stewart At 07:51 AM 10/15/2008, you wrote: We have gone for a while with no contract, just monthly payments (at full freight). I would like to set up a contract, but before doing so, I would like to know what would happen if our current box were to fail or become woefully obsolete (I am assuming it can't handle HD) before the end of the contract. I think it's a "Series 2" or some such, about 2½ years old (not home right now). Thanks! Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] TiVo question
We have gone for a while with no contract, just monthly payments (at full freight). I would like to set up a contract, but before doing so, I would like to know what would happen if our current box were to fail or become woefully obsolete (I am assuming it can't handle HD) before the end of the contract. I think it's a "Series 2" or some such, about 2½ years old (not home right now). Thanks! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *