Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-26 Thread b_s-wilk

That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. 
I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I 
guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a 
cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what 
business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning 
FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business.



We've had connection issues with our DSL service for over two months. It 
disconnects at the same time almost every day for 5-90 minutes. Verizon 
is working on it.


When the tech came to check wiring, switch, etc., he told me that the 
trunk line from town is fiber even though the neighborhood isn't 
connected, so we can't get FIOS. He told me that it's the same where he 
lives--fiber to the area, but neighborhoods not connected. He has DSL 
and DirecTV, just like we do.


Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not 
doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get 
their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat 
chance!


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-26 Thread mike
Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:



 Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not
 doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get
 their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat
 chance!

 Betty




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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-26 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it.

This is where a skillful lawyer/politician makes Verizon build out
FIOS in that area or get the hell out of the way.  If they want to
prevent a build out because they are going to do it in a year or so is
the only way they can get standing in a court.

 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:



 Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not
 doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get
 their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat
 chance!

 Betty




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[CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-25 Thread Roger D. Parish
At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a 
stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports 
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 
summarizes thus:


Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS 
deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. 
However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't 
be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the 
exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new 
executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth 
it.

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Roger
Lovettsville, VA


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-25 Thread Mike Sloane
That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's 
service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves 
my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV 
eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am 
beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to 
get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product 
left is their Wireless cellphone business.


At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some 
kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone 
service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include 
much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead.


Mike

On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote:

At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake
through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1
summarizes thus:

Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS
deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets.
However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be
unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the
exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new
executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it.



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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-25 Thread mike
Nice to know all that money these guys got in tax breaks and incentives
went...nowhere.  Makes me that much happier when I hear various senators
proclaim 'we have plenty of competition' in regards to the desired
tmobile/ATT merger.  Yeah.  Right.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote:

 That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's
 service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my
 area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV
 eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am
 beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get
 out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is
 their Wireless cellphone business.

 At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind
 of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out
 to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I
 wonder where this will all lead.

 Mike


 On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote:

 At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake
 through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports
 http://www.dslreports.com/**shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-**
 Home-LTE-Service-116721?**nocomment=1http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1
 
 summarizes thus:

 Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS
 deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets.
 However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be
 unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the
 exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new
 executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it.



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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?

2011-10-25 Thread Emil Volcheck
Mike,

It's worth noting that the new FCC net neutrality
rules apply to wired connections (like FiOS) but
not wireless connections (like LTE).

--Emil

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 17:39, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote:
 That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's
 service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my
 area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV
 eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am
 beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get
 out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is
 their Wireless cellphone business.

 At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind
 of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out
 to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I
 wonder where this will all lead.

 Mike

 On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote:

 At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake
 through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports

 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1
 summarizes thus:

 Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS
 deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets.
 However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be
 unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the
 exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new
 executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it.


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