Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-08-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have to ditto Tom here. I used to have every TV in the house on all day. Now there is just one on for 'noise' for my parrots. I have very few TV shows I bother to watch. Potentially giving new life to your TV... I just set up my Tivo and noticed it offers a list of video podcasts for

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
Two free applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and another program that costs only $4.99, make it possible to listen to live radio on the iPhone from anywhere, including a moving car... No, radio (and the NAB) will kill radio. Who cares what you can listen to it on, the product is just

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John covici
I will check, as I recall, there is no install charge. on Tuesday 07/29/2008 Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote I get my news from the Post (paper) and from NPR. I don't listen much to commercial radio, except the occasional baseball game. I don't watch TV at all. I get

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John covici
Sorry for the incorrect posting. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have an iPod, but have never gotten news from it (my iPod is before the Touch model). News paper circulation shrinks every year. If radio shrinks too, where will you all get your news? There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! I thought the squirting commment was fairly droll for

[CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Michel Lowe
... ;-) __ Michel David Lowe -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:49 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio? But there's

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It all depends. In the latest release of Eudora actually done by Eudora, they turn into icons. The Icons actually let you know there is something else there. Otherwise I have a hard time deciphering all the punctuation marks, and it reminds me of reading Hebrew! Stewart At 10:23 AM

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/29/08, Michel Lowe wrote: Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread mike
That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Allen Firstenberg
... ;-) __ Michel David Lowe -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:49 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Dunford
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Ain't nothing wrong with my

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Dunford
The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In traditional print, you'd have lots and lots of written words to realize this. In realspace, you can judge the body language of the person making the statement.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
I use both WPC and Mac. I am neither. Your comment shows minimal attention, or is just gratuitous. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs, and only busboys and their ilk use Windows. But I was referring to those who *make* Windows not those who *use* Windows. Note that those who make Windows made themselves fantastically rich by over charging their

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Okay I regret the remark because it sucked the air out of the discussion of a really interesting and important topic. This week we have Serious and XM merging because the market for their services was not as large as they expected. When they first arrived on the scene I said (on air) that I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. Where I think the Satellite radios have it over Internet radio is sports. The way sports events are licensed you will not find them on conventional internet radio. I am a big Nascar fan and would like one of the satellite radios to catch races when in the car. (There is no

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In Yes, I think this is exactly right. Email, forums, listserv posts, IMs, and the like

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. OK, yeah, maybe it was marginally less annoying than the usual comments. But I'm just so tired of it, y'know? OMG, someone

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Allen Firstenberg
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:38:09PM -0400, John DeCarlo wrote: Agree that icons make it a little easier, but they go overboard, too - what does the smiley face with a hat on at a rakish angle mean about the text just preceeding it? That the author is trying, and failing, to be cute.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
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Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Constance Warner
Will the iPhone kill radio? Not for awhile yet--for lots of reasons. You can get a really groovy short-wave set that will fit in a purse or the small zipper compartment of a knapsack for around $20. There's no subscription charge, and the reception is pretty good. It runs on batteries that I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread mike
Not with users like we have. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, gratuitous insult is an oxymoron when applied to Microsoft. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I might buy an iPhone-type device some day, because I love cool gadgets. But for now: Should I pay hundreds of dollars to get an iPhone, and switch phone services to a service that doesn't work very well in this area (and that will lock me into a two-year contract), just so I can listen to RADIO?

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
TechDirt has a story on ATT cutting off users of P2P software on thier 3g network. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml Can Pandora be far behind? Radio is broadcast more listeners cost nothing while internet traffic is narrow cast every listener ads a little bit of cost.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Paula Minor
There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some local stations. iTunes keeps filling up with more and more good stuff. I especially like APM's Future Tense. These are short, 5-minute programs that often inform me of tech events that are

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Paula Minor
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) Yep,

[CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have opined before that changes in distribution will make us much less beholden to people with transmitters (like WAMU) that redistribute various national feeds. Instead we'll use the Internet to go right to the source. Smary guy, Larry Magid asks: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Dunford
(Or I guess you can sit around squirting people with your Zune.) Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. 17,501 coming soon. Fewer potshots at Apple, 12,374 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread mike
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. 17,501 coming soon. Fewer potshots at Apple, 12,374 I think.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Selective recall. I take shots at both, but you only remember the ones aimed at your beloved. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread John DeCarlo
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike Probably because you don't pay attention. And you have certain blinders on. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Dunford
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike Probably because you don't pay attention. And you have certain blinders on. He does indeed post about Apple problems. That's fine. As is pointing out MS problems--when it's relevant. But there's a difference