Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-31 Thread b_s-wilk

I didn't mean to start some sort of email war. Sorry, but POP and IMAP
are yesterday's news. My grandfather's email.  An email client that
can't work in any browser via AJAX and can't store my stuff in the
cloud just isn't worth consideration in 2009. Except perhaps in a
historical perspective; I still have a few years of email stored from
Thunderbird and Eudora before that.


AJAX is a tool to create an online interface for POP and IMAP. It isn't 
an email protocol. Underneath you still have POP or IMAP. Any IMAP 
client can store email in the cloud and download copies to keep locally.


Tell grandpa his email client is just fine.


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tell grandpa his email client is just fine.

Gramps appreciates the vote of support, but are you sure GMail has an 
IMAP server behind it? Recall that they tacked on IMAP support later. I 
think GMail has a custom database behind it.


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-31 Thread Jordan

Google was broken for a while this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/brkao8





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[CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread Tony B
Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper
right before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download
my gmail, which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while
offline. When killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand
what was happening and actually give me a usable interface.


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread rleesimon
How much HDD space does it take up for 2 years of email ?

-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: gmail offline


Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper right
before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download my gmail,
which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while offline. When
killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand what was happening
and actually give me a usable interface.


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread rleesimon
I suspected that would be the case.  I am using gmail as I changed providers
after over 10 years with att dialup and don't want to go through that again
...I considered yahoo but settled on gmail as it seemed likely to have
longevity ...I am using pop and outlook ...the heck with their scheme which
seems mostly directed at snooping for push opportunities ...in outlook I
save and archive mail for years and have folders for all and can backup the
whole sheebang with 2 .pst files which can go on my thumb drive for
portability too ...I don't see what good the online gmail is unless one used
a blackberry or such and had limited space and a need to see old mail for
work or such ...I use gmail just as a portal, that's all ...thanks for the
info ...doesn't seem like it's worthwhile for my purposes.

-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:49 PM
To: rleesimon
Subject: Re: gmail offline


Buried deep at
C:\Users\cj\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sdvhhoyb.default\Google
Gears for Firefox\mail.google.com is 231mb of new data, mostly attachments,
mostly .jpgs.. The mail itself seems to be in a long series of numbered
plain text files like mail[123]. Most of these files are unreadable in
notepad, though I suspect there may be many plain text emails saved among
them.

This isn't quite what I really wanted from gmail. I'd rather just have a
scheduled Download zip with all emails setting. But this is not bad; I can
always zip it myself, but then, being on C:, it's getting imaged
daily/monthly anyway.


On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote:
 How much HDD space does it take up for 2 years of email ?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:40 PM
 Subject: gmail offline


 Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

 Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper 
 right before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download 
 my gmail, which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while 
 offline. When killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand 
 what was happening and actually give me a usable interfa 


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread b_s-wilk

Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] escribió:


Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper right
before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download my gmail,
which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while offline. When
killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand what was happening
and actually give me a usable interface.



I have GMail offline, too, with an excellent interface. It has easy 
downloads/syncing, lots of features, filters, multiple accounts, quick 
searches.


It's called Mozilla Thunderbird. GMail has POP and IMAP email you can 
use with almost _any_ email client, not just the one you get from 
Google! It's amazing! The new GMail client is no big deal, unless you 
can't live without exactly the same format as online. Big yawn.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread Tony B
I didn't mean to start some sort of email war. Sorry, but POP and IMAP
are yesterday's news. My grandfather's email.  An email client that
can't work in any browser via AJAX and can't store my stuff in the
cloud just isn't worth consideration in 2009. Except perhaps in a
historical perspective; I still have a few years of email stored from
Thunderbird and Eudora before that.


On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:58 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
 Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] escribió:

 Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

 Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper right
 before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download my gmail,
 which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while offline. When
 killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand what was happening
 and actually give me a usable interface.


 I have GMail offline, too, with an excellent interface. It has easy
 downloads/syncing, lots of features, filters, multiple accounts, quick
 searches.

 It's called Mozilla Thunderbird. GMail has POP and IMAP email you can use
 with almost _any_ email client, not just the one you get from Google! It's
 amazing! The new GMail client is no big deal, unless you can't live without
 exactly the same format as online. Big yawn.

 Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail offline

2009-01-30 Thread rleesimon
maybe your boss is gonna read your quips on this board while you hang out at
the water cooler !!

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/zd/20090130/tc_zd/236556

-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:49 PM
To: rleesimon
Subject: Re: gmail offline


Buried deep at
C:\Users\cj\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sdvhhoyb.default\Google
Gears for Firefox\mail.google.com is 231mb of new data, mostly attachments,
mostly .jpgs.. The mail itself seems to be in a long series of numbered
plain text files like mail[123]. Most of these files are unreadable in
notepad, though I suspect there may be many plain text emails saved among
them.

This isn't quite what I really wanted from gmail. I'd rather just have a
scheduled Download zip with all emails setting. But this is not bad; I can
always zip it myself, but then, being on C:, it's getting imaged
daily/monthly anyway.


On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote:
 How much HDD space does it take up for 2 years of email ?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:40 PM
 Subject: gmail offline


 Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?

 Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper 
 right before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download 
 my gmail, which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while 
 offline. When killing the internet, it took gmail ages to understand 
 what was happening and actually give me a usable interfa 


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