Many find the new UI changes hard to learn and unnecessary.
Sue wasn't talking about the UI. She was talking about the need to buy new
software whenever MS changes its mind, and that's what I was responding to.
There could have been changes made that don't stop quite
as many programs from
The only Eudora being released is a NEW one put out by the folks at
Thunderbird, that is compatible with Vista.
There is another. Google on Odysseus email.
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EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the
warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one
have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing?
Compare to Apple. The two times they changed processors -- a big enough
Don't want vista? Don't buy it. XP is still around, some vendors are still
selling it installed. This is a fake argument.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not only does MS think they own our computers, it looks like they also
think they own us. We must
Without knowing what exactly this is, who knows why? But, the permission
model on Vista is different from XP. Microsoft announced this loudly and
often to the development community during the beta testing period. Why
didn't the mfr of the lock box update their software?
Apple has also made a
At 02:01 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote
The only Eudora being released is a NEW one put out by the folks at
Thunderbird, that is compatible with Vista.
There is another. Google on Odysseus email.
Looks like that's for Macs?
Sue
At 03:25 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote
EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the
warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one
have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing?
Compare to Apple. The two
At 12:43 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote
Don't want vista? Don't buy it. XP is still around, some vendors are still
selling it installed. This is a fake argument.
No it's not. Only a few vendors will still install XP, and those mostly
have to be ordered. If you want the price that's in
Yes...it is.
I didn't say you could get it on the cheapest laptop at Best Buy. I just
said it was available. You deny it's available and then in the next
sentence admit it is.
Mike
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:43 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote
At 02:20 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote
Yes...it is.
I didn't say you could get it on the cheapest laptop at Best Buy. I just
said it was available. You deny it's available and then in the next
sentence admit it is.
I'm done here. If all you want is to play semantics, that's enough for
I'm starting to agree with Tom. If I have to buy new software every
time MS decides it's time for a change, I might as well tackle the
learning
curve from Mac. If most businesses are refusing to use Vista, it's not
a very good recommend for those of us out here who just want a computer
Right now I'm tearing my hair out trying to understand how to teach newbies
to use a computer. Most of them are seniors, who are not of a mind to
replace equipment and software all the time. Nor can I replace mine all
the time just to be able to teach them.
If the new system were clearly
There is another. Google on Odysseus email.
Looks like that's for Macs?
Well of course. However they do promise to get around to a Windows
version eventually (I can't imagine why).
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I'm starting to agree with Tom. If I have to buy new software every
time MS decides it's time for a change
That's a bit extreme, Sue. MS has always bent over backwards for
compatibility. As I've mentioned here before, I still use DOS programs that
were written in the early 80s for a CPU
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Questions to ponder:
1. Did MS make changes in Vista just to annoy customers, or were there good
reasons?
Some parts had good reasons. Others were simply to have something new, to
justify the people who count the number
Why is it miserable? Saying it doesn't make it so.
Is acting dumb an acceptable way to win an argument? I think not.
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