Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>This is an external two drive enclosure, not a tray. Why bother with >eSata? Speed...being able to hot swap if you wanted. As far as >incompatibilities go, I'm on windows so SATA is fine. You go ahead and hot swap the drive that the OS is running from. I'll watch and try not to bust a gut lau

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Maybe after you tell us what you are talking about we can all laugh. You might want to go to wikipedia to look up SATA and how it functions. Also might want to read up on putting OS's on seperate drives, they all don't have to go on one drive. I'd give you the url for looking up SATA on wiki, bu

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-04 Thread mike
This is an external two drive enclosure, not a tray. Why bother with eSata? Speed...being able to hot swap if you wanted. As far as incompatibilities go, I'm on windows so SATA is fine. I guess your mac doesn't like new fangled things that came out years ago like SATA? NAT? NAS? Can you say

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
>esata is for external enclosures, not trays/bays. The only difference is With a drive bay priced at $10 and using old reliable IDE why would anyone get a $150 eSATA and then have to worry about various incompatibilities? Better to KISS. You can get a nice NAT box for less than you quote for e

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread mike
A connector and a eSATA cable. > > Most external SATA drives are USB2 or 1394 firewire... > > > > Paul Meyer wrote: > >> - Original Message > >> From: Thanks, sata sounds like the way. > >> > >> - Original Message > >>

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread db
nd a eSATA cable. Most external SATA drives are USB2 or 1394 firewire... Paul Meyer wrote: - Original Message From: Thanks, sata sounds like the way. - Original Message From: Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:5

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
ct: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives You may want to look at Drobo <http://www.drobo.com/products.aspx#products_nav> the data robot. It lets you hot swap drives into a box that manages backups and builds something like a RAID array for $500 plus the cost of drives. I have no experience with it but it a

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
Friday, August 3, 2007 1:08:08 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives Not all external drives have fans. Metal Gear Box ones (IDE & SATA models & combo models) are nice, inexpensive and do not. eSATA drives are rare and have a different connector than SATA ... you have to have the card

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
Failure recovery, dual OS's, feelings of power and consequence when I insert those drives... - Original Message From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 4:19:36 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives What is your end

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Fred Holmes
>From: Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:50:01 AM >Subject: [CGUYS] swap drives > >Anyone have experience with brands of swap-able drive bays.

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread mike
> > > > > - Original Message ---- > > > From: Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:51:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives > > > > > > W

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Anyone have experience with brands of swap-able drive bays. Btw, >if you didn't have this find list to solicit opinions, where >on the web/net is a good place to reliable reviews, feedback etc. I bought a bunch of expensive "brand name" racks and trays with the expectation that I would be able

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
nal Message > > From: > > Thanks, sata sounds like the way. > > > > - Original Message > > From: Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:51:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread db
ives are USB2 or 1394 firewire... Paul Meyer wrote: - Original Message From: Thanks, sata sounds like the way. - Original Message From: Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:51:08 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap dri

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread mike
e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives > > Another solution, possibly is eSATA, unless you have specific reasons for > wanting internal drives. > > Mike > > On 8/3/07, P

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
- Original Message From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:10:04 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives Another solution, possibly is eSATA, unless you have specific reasons for wanting internal drives. Mike On 8/3/07, Paul Meyer &

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread mike
se drives > are changing over time? (Did you make the comment, Fred?) -P > > - Original Message > From: Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:50:01 AM > Subject: [CGUYS] swap drives > > Anyone hav

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
M Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:50:01 AM Subject: [CGUYS] swap drives Anyone have experience with brands of swap-able drive bays. Btw, if you didn't have this find list to solicit opinions, where on the web/net is a good place to reliable reviews, feedback etc.

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Meyer
- Original Message From: Thanks, sata sounds like the way. - Original Message From: Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:51:08 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] swap drives We use el cheapo Genica EIDE drive bays. Like $10

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Tony B
We use el cheapo Genica EIDE drive bays. Like $10 for a male-female combo. But I dunno that I _prefer_ them over any other brands, it's just that now we've got so many it's not like I can test a lot of others. They _do_ have fans. Our biggest problem has always been the nature of the EIDE bus. Th

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-03 Thread Fred Holmes
My only experience is with older ones, no longer sold. There is no standardization at all. Get all you will ever need compatibility for up front. If you wait, and then need a few more inserts, you won't be able to find them nor full sets when the time comes. A new model will be out, and the

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Meyer
- Original Message --- whoops - this find list => this fine list - Original Message From: Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:50:01 AM Subject: [CGUYS] swap drives Anyone have experience with brands of swap-a

[CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Meyer
Anyone have experience with brands of swap-able drive bays. Btw, if you didn't have this find list to solicit opinions, where on the web/net is a good place to reliable reviews, feedback etc. -Paul Meyer * ==> QUICK LIST