Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
So I wouldn't throw away that old compass just yet. No, I wouldn't either. And I don't figure that most people have completely lost their minds as far as their best interests are concerned. Evidence to the contrary.

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-06 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 7:15 PM -0500 1/5/10, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: wireline n: a slender, rodlike or threadlike piece of metal usually small in diameter, that is used for lowering special tools (such as logging sondes, perforating guns, and so forth) into the well. Also called slick line. Ellen H who once

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-06 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 8:13 PM -0500 1/5/10, Eric S. Sande wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. In general usage wireline is

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: This actually makes a degree of sense. I never really thought of what to call FIOS. Obviously we can't call it wireless, even though it really has no wires. We can't call it a landline because it has no wires. And now we can't

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem to spend freakish amounts of time talking all things cell phone. Agreed. Yet, no one wants to admit that they have a jones for their cell phone? To wit, yesterday I was stopped at

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Fernando
mint.com's security tech and practices are here: http://www.mint.com/privacy/security-tech/ They keep the passwords encrypted. They are not encrypted as one-way hashes and they decrypt them to use at the bank sites. 24/7 security guards? Even if they have a guard dog, I don't want someone

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: We have a bad habit, in this country, of writing off old technologies as soon as something a little more advanced has been adopted by a small percentage of the American public. A lot of the older technology is the only

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread mike
You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show

2010-01-06 Thread mike
And if yer lucky you end up on Discovery's 'Hoarders' show. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: There is the old adage that if you throw it away today, damn if you're not

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Dunford
You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say

[CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread tjpa
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner wrote: In this case, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that fancy cellphones have replaced computers as all-purpose communications devices. Cellphones are too small to display most of what's on the Web. For a lot of people, cellphones

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread tjpa
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:40 AM, mike wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Dunford
Yes and no. Yes, the waiter can do bad things with your credit card. Yet if you have ever left your credit card behind you will discover that they usually go to great lengths to protect your card and get it back to you promptly. If these were dishonest people they would be in a different line

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I would like your advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts out ;) but getting things shipped down here is a major hassle. The USPS ships for the

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread Victor Subervi
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I would like your advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts out

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Fernando
I'm not talking about CC numbers. I'm worried about a third-party company storing my sensitive passwords in its servers. It's the principle of the thing ... if you are okay with it, go for it. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:56 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Our reality is often shaped by advertising and we don't realize that what most people do is not advertised (because it does not have to be). Most people use paygo, not the advertised contracts. Most people have simple cellphones.

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but he only delivers once a year! And that was last week!! I guess that's about all you can expect to get for free...and for trying to be so good all year! But yeah, it is a little late, or wy to early

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:40 AM, mike wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread Victor Subervi
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but he only delivers once a year! And that was last week!! I guess that's about all you can expect to get for free...and for

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Weren't there stories from NY and other metro areas of people getting mugged specifically because they had white earbuds and thus the most expensive mp3 player on the market? Yes. Bling envy. No great dollar value involved, just

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the continental US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there know of a supplier who will ship it directly to me? Only one I can immediately think of is Santa

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
You're right in general, but Eskimos having many words for snow is something of a myth. The Eskimo languages are polysynthetic, which means, more or less, that multiple words are combined into one as needed. Where we might say something like dry, drifting snow, they would combine the three

Re: [CGUYS] a new word?

2010-01-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Try calling it fiber optic communications. Lets keep things consistent- Glass Line. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o)

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread tjpa
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two boasted of an iPod Touch, and one of an iPod. Nothing else mentioned. Just those items, as if you got one of those you

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Rich Schinnell
At 01:41 PM 1/6/2010, you wrote: Date:Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:44:53 -0500 From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Subject: Re: new bank and a mint There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread tjpa
On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend?

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Stewart Marshall
I do not know about the card reader, but we did have a problem here a few year ago with an ethnic restaurant getting card numbers of patrons and using them. People prosecuted, problem ended. Local police chief had it happen to him in Georgia. I would figure if you are at a place you know and

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote: You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a replica of the card with all the data necessary to on-line shop with the safety of knowing that it can only be used to the

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Dunford
At BofA, I have their visa card and they offer ShopSafeR is their free service for Online Banking customers that allows you to create a unique, temporary account number for online purchases. You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Dunford
There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? Nope. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/washington/

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Fred Holmes
Is that for one single purchase or for one short period of time? If I want to make three on-line purchases (three different vendors) in an evening, do I have to get three different temporary VISA Card numbers? Has anyone ever been able to learn specifically how a compromised credit card

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Dunford
I would figure if you are at a place you know and trust not as much of a problem than if you are somewhere you are totally unfamiliar with. Apparently not. If you read the article I linked to in the reply to Tom, you'll see that some of the restaurants in question were very well-known DC

Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-06 Thread Reid Katan
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the continental US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread mike
Reasonable being the highest price on the market... On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:38 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: What? You think that somebody who got a Zune is going to brag about it? You are so out of touch. Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread tjpa
On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has. This is the lemming mentality. These gift recipients finally belong, no

[CGUYS] mac gaming at it's best

2010-01-06 Thread mike
http://ny-image0.etsy.com//il_fullxfull.111064332.jpg And they say macs ain't got game. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] mac gaming at it's best

2010-01-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://ny-image0.etsy.com//il_fullxfull.111064332.jpg And they say macs ain't got game. Look it takes tough guys to battle an apple. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o)

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not out of touch, as you say.  I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has.  This is the

Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]

2010-01-06 Thread t.piwowar
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:26 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: No, no, no! It wasn't ME who got an iPody device. The folks who were breathlessly extolling the fact that THEY had gotten one ARE Windows users. And good for them. I'm observing quite a change in attitude among Windows drones after

[CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-06 Thread t.piwowar
Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain impairment

Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint

2010-01-06 Thread b_s-wilk
There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/washington/ Well