Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread mike
Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access your
router and do the modifications for you.  It tells you to identify the
router type so that's my guess.  It probably turns off DHCP for you...

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw this in the news this morning and was wondering if anyone has
 tried it and can answer a question. The hardest part of port
 forwarding on a network is having to switch off DHCP, so you can tell
 the router which machine to forward which port for. So my question is:
 If I use this app, can I actually re-enable DHCP? If not, then I
 wonder why they call it 'simple' port forwarding?

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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Scary, it is not clear what this utility does. So who knows what it is 
doing to your network and how to undo what it does if necessary.

You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to 
limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a 
static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for 
me.

I saw this in the news this morning and was wondering if anyone has
tried it and can answer a question. The hardest part of port
forwarding on a network is having to switch off DHCP, so you can tell
the router which machine to forward which port for. So my question is:
If I use this app, can I actually re-enable DHCP? If not, then I
wonder why they call it 'simple' port forwarding?


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Right, but on home networks with only four or five IP's you may as well
leave DHCP off and static the bunch.

DHCP is very convenient when you add a new device or have somebody 
visiting with their laptop. I used to static everything. Now I have a 
range managed by DHCP and it is a great convenience.


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access your
router and do the modifications for you.  It tells you to identify the
router type so that's my guess.  It probably turns off DHCP for you...

I still think it is creepy. Is your router's interface really that bad?


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread mike
I think sometimes those who do mess with their own routers or for that
matter build their own computer might forget how someone who has no idea
what an IP address is faces when looking at their routers interface.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access
 your
 router and do the modifications for you.  It tells you to identify the
 router type so that's my guess.  It probably turns off DHCP for you...

 I still think it is creepy. Is your router's interface really that bad?


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tony B
This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a
enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set
ranges?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to
 limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a
 static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for
 me.


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Tony B wrote:

This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a
enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set
ranges?


Tony,
I have a WRT54G (not S, but it should be similar). On the Basic
Setup page, I have DHCP Server: Enable or Disable, followed by
Starting IP address, and Maximum Number of DHCP Users. In
my case, I have DHCP enabled, starting IP address of 192.168.1.100,
and max users of 50. So, my range of DHCP assigned addresses will
be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150. I use addresses below .100 for
static addresses.


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to
limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a
static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for
me.


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a
enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set
ranges?

Usually right next to the DHCP check box.


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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tony B
I think I'm getting it now. Apparently I've been laboring for years
under the belief that DHCP has to be disabled to forward ports. All I
really have to do is ensure the DHCP server doesn't give out my own
static address, which is configured on the computer, not the router.

I tried installing Simple Port Forwarding and it looks nice. It is
just a front end for the router, but it simplifies a lot of things.
Since I already have this router set up the way I like it, I don't
really need SPF, but I hope I remember it the next time I buy a router
for myself.


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Tony B wrote:

 This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a
 enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set
 ranges?

 Tony,
 I have a WRT54G (not S, but it should be similar). On the Basic
 Setup page, I have DHCP Server: Enable or Disable, followed by
 Starting IP address, and Maximum Number of DHCP Users. In
 my case, I have DHCP enabled, starting IP address of 192.168.1.100,
 and max users of 50. So, my range of DHCP assigned addresses will
 be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150. I use addresses below .100 for
 static addresses.

 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to
 limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a
 static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for
 me.

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Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think I'm getting it now. Apparently I've been laboring for years
under the belief that DHCP has to be disabled to forward ports. All I
really have to do is ensure the DHCP server doesn't give out my own
static address, which is configured on the computer, not the router.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Now can we try to get you to stop using Windows?


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