Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
Hear we go again. I suppose this breathless author does not know of any other online merchant having accounts breached. It just never happens. Or, more accurately, it only happens to Apple. Sure. This is looking more and more like some bloggers are piling on. On Jul 7, 2010, at 2:05 PM, mike wrote: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/07/06/apple-addresses-another-problem-provides-unrelated-fix/ Not so much dystopian but at least slightly lawlessand another bad PR move for Apple? It's being advised by some, like Tom Merrit, to remove any credit card or debit card attached to itunes because of this problem that seems to be getting worse. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/07/06/apple-addresses-another-problem-provides-unrelated-fix/ http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/07/06/apple-addresses-another-problem-provides-unrelated-fix/Not so much dystopian but at least slightly lawlessand another bad PR move for Apple? It's being advised by some, like Tom Merrit, to remove any credit card or debit card attached to itunes because of this problem that seems to be getting worse. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Google’s mismanagement of the Android Market http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ I am sure glad that the Apps Store does not look anything like this dystopian store that Android users are stuck with -- an anarchic place that only a Libertarian would love. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
Tap Fish found a way around this limitation on the touch. Apple knows it. Apple refunded the $900 fish bill without much of a fight. Thurrott got satisfaction rather quickly from Apple. He had to call on a iPad Touch that was under warranty to have someone to complain to since the App store doesn't seem to have phone support. Other's have had this problem as well. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Thurrott told a story a few days ago on one of the twit shows...apparently his kids had racked up 900 dollars in fake fish with an app called touch fish. Once you've ok'd the 'purchase' of the free app with your pass, the user can buy fish with real money in the game apparently without the further need for a pass. So for all it's slickness, the Apple store has it's own problems. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Freedom and Liberty is frightening to boot-heeled leftists. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Google’s mismanagement of the Android Market http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ I am sure glad that the Apps Store does not look anything like this dystopian store that Android users are stuck with -- an anarchic place that only a Libertarian would love. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:36 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: Tap Fish found a way around this limitation on the touch. Apple knows it. Apple refunded the $900 fish bill without much of a fight. Thurrott got satisfaction rather quickly from Apple. He had to call on a iPad Touch that was under warranty to have someone to complain to since the App store doesn't seem to have phone support. Other's have had this problem as well. Link to kid who spent 1200 on Tap Fish fish. http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/tap-fish-7-year-old-racks-1-200-itunes-2621825.html What Tap Fish/Bayview Labs exploited is that you need to turn off in App purchases on your device- (iphone, ipod touch). I would suspect that lots of people who thought that they blocked purchases missed this one. Here is how. Settings General Restrictions In-App Purchases OFF Could someone with an iPad see if that setting is there on on by default as well. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
Yes it is there. The default is no controls (as it should be). I tried the Tap Fish app. There are better and free aquariums available. Buying additional items takes you to the Apps Store and a password prompt. The problem may be that once the store password is entered, it does not have to be reentered every time. I'm not sure how long before the password expires. On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:53 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Settings General Restrictions In-App Purchases OFF Could someone with an iPad see if that setting is there on on by default as well. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
For any app store purchase, including purchases from inside an app, you have to enter in your password the first time you make a purchase, but your password activation only remains good for a little while afterwards, and in particular will expire after the idevice goes to sleep. So Thurrott and those others either made a purchase and handed the iDevice back to their kids, who then racked up all those costs before letting it go to sleep, or else they gave their kids their app store passwords. Either way, they essentially handed their kids a credit card for an online purchase and didn't check up on them. It's a little hard to feel sorry for them on this, or to blame Apple too much on this point. For most apps, blocking in-app purchases will require you to enter a 4-digit override (much like the parental controls on your TV) and then you still need your app store password. In Tap Fish, if you have purchases blocked, you are sent to their web site and prompted to install more of their other apps, some of which you must pay for, in order to get free fish bucks. Turning off app installation is a separate restriction that might not be turned on. So the Tap Fish people are definitely predatory, in much the same way as your typical carnival game. From:John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market? On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:36 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: Tap Fish found a way around this limitation on the touch. Apple knows it. Apple refunded the $900 fish bill without much of a fight. Thurrott got satisfaction rather quickly from Apple. He had to call on a iPad Touch that was under warranty to have someone to complain to since the App store doesn't seem to have phone support. Other's have had this problem as well. Link to kid who spent 1200 on Tap Fish fish. http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/tap-fish-7-year-old-racks-1-200-itunes-2621825.html What Tap Fish/Bayview Labs exploited is that you need to turn off in App purchases on your device- (iphone, ipod touch). I would suspect that lots of people who thought that they blocked purchases missed this one. Here is how. Settings General Restrictions In-App Purchases OFF Could someone with an iPad see if that setting is there on on by default as well. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
Freedom and Liberty is frightening to boot-heeled leftists. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Google’s mismanagement of the Android Market http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ I am sure glad that the Apps Store does not look anything like this dystopian store that Android users are stuck with -- an anarchic place that only a Libertarian would love. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just How Bad is Google's Mismanagement of the Android Market?
Paul Thurrott told a story a few days ago on one of the twit shows...apparently his kids had racked up 900 dollars in fake fish with an app called touch fish. Once you've ok'd the 'purchase' of the free app with your pass, the user can buy fish with real money in the game apparently without the further need for a pass. So for all it's slickness, the Apple store has it's own problems. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Freedom and Liberty is frightening to boot-heeled leftists. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Google’s mismanagement of the Android Market http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ I am sure glad that the Apps Store does not look anything like this dystopian store that Android users are stuck with -- an anarchic place that only a Libertarian would love. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
