Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread TJPA
This is a major chunk of the country. Why should the future wait for you 
laggards?

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread mike
Arrogant as always.  You are nothing if not dependable.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:25 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 This is a major chunk of the country. Why should the future wait for you
 laggards?

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Typical arrogance from someone on the East Coast.

Just because a lot of folks live there does not make you the be all 
to the end all.


We do matter.  Just because you do not care about us does not really matter.

This is what leads to a lot of intolerance from many sides.

Stewart


At 01:25 PM 6/18/2010, you wrote:
This is a major chunk of the country. Why should the future wait for 
you laggards?


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread TJPA
When you are wrong, you can always drop back to calling me names.

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread TJPA
You did not answer the question. Why should the future wait for you laggards? 
Especially so when it is you laggards who are battling against a revitalized 
broadband policy. Should we bring back the telegraph? 

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Yes!  I want an iKey!

Thank you, 

-Original Message-

Should we bring back the telegraph? 

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread mike
What revitalized broadband policy?  I haven't seen anything or heard
anything...only read that they are 'planning'.  And from reports the plan is
to get 1mbit to everyone...WOW.  1mbit, hold em back.  You can download the
newest star trek at a resolution big enough for your cell phoneif the
ISP gives you the bandwith.

Tom what is your cap on bandwith?

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 You did not answer the question. Why should the future wait for you
 laggards? Especially so when it is you laggards who are battling against a
 revitalized broadband policy. Should we bring back the telegraph?

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread mike
They are more descriptors than names really.

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 When you are wrong, you can always drop back to calling me names.

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
To quote Jobs -'Blue-ray is a bag of hurt.'  The licensing was complex and
expensive in 2008.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Steve-Jobs-Bluray-is-a-bag-of-hurt-no-netbook-planned/1224007987

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:51 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Be a lot more useful if the thing had a bluray player, 700 bux is
 outrageous
 for that hardware spec.

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  At 1:23 AM -0400 6/16/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
  Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
  real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
  anyway.
 
 
  Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an HDMI-to-DVI
  cable for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort cable, but an HDMI
  cable.
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread mike
Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
a necessary item in any serious entertainment system.  Also he was talking
about licensing two years ago, BR has taken off, there is no other option on
the market anymore.  This mac mini would have been the perfect device to
launch a BR line of macs for entertainment systems.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:00 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:

 To quote Jobs -'Blue-ray is a bag of hurt.'  The licensing was complex and
 expensive in 2008.


 http://www.betanews.com/article/Steve-Jobs-Bluray-is-a-bag-of-hurt-no-netbook-planned/1224007987

 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:51 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Be a lot more useful if the thing had a bluray player, 700 bux is
  outrageous
  for that hardware spec.
 
  On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Roger D. Parish 
 rogerd.par...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   At 1:23 AM -0400 6/16/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
   Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
   real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
   anyway.
  
  
   Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an HDMI-to-DVI
   cable for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort cable, but an
 HDMI
   cable.
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread TJPA
BR is yesterday's answer. Look at what NetFlix is doing to see what replaced it.

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 Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
 he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am a subscriber to Netflix and view Netflix movies on my computer 
and my WII on the wide screen TV (Streamed)


Few drawbacks yet.

New releases usually are not on the view menu.  Because of Studio 
agreements and what not they usually take some time before you can 
watch them this way.  (and usually do not till they are a few years old.)


Closed Captions.  Most movies (they are working to improve this) do 
not have closed captions available. My wife hates it because I have 
to turn the TV up to hear the movie.


Limited menu.  As I stated before not all movies are available in 
this manner, and the list is constantly changing.  (Some studios 
actually pull movies from the list.)


Not too long ago the studios started penalizing Netflix (and Redbox) 
by not allowing them the new releases on the same day as the stores 
got them for sale.  They did this because of money once again.  In 
their minds they sell more movies in the month following a new 
release than they do after this date and if they can prevent 
consumers from being able to rent these movies in that time frame 
they feel they can make up their investment.  So Netflix and Redbox 
have come to agreements with the studios (the honest truth is the 
studios blackmailed and arm twisted them into it.) and all is OK 
right now (you simply wait a month till you can rent it.)  It is 
interesting that the only video rental company who did not have this 
happen, already had a kickback agreement with the studio, Blockbuster 
(which is going down the tubes)


Studios will have to be the first ones to change this problem.

I agree being able to stream the entertainment is neat.  But until 
you can truly stream the movies you want instead of what Hollywood 
will allow you too, BR and DVD will still be the preferred method of 
distribution.


Stewart


At 12:30 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
BR is yesterday's answer. Look at what NetFlix is doing to see what 
replaced it.


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 Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
 he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
 a necessary item in any serious entertainment system.  Also he was talking
 about licensing two years ago, BR has taken off, there is no 
other option on

 the market anymore.


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread TJPA
These are licensing issues, not technical. A smart Steve Jobs can sweep them 
away with a wave of his hand.

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 New releases usually are not on the view menu.  Because of Studio agreements 
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread mike
You live in a dream world.  I broke my foot in October and spent the month
of November watching Hulu on my tv, Qwest turned off my internet connection
shortly after.  I called and was informed my usage was too high and this was
their way of warning me to lower it.  They would not say how much I had
used, nor give me a definitive usage number, however in talking to two reps
I was informed that normal usage was 2 or maybe 3 gigs a month.  Let's
see...one BR is what?  10 gigs?  Oh wait...can you even stream HD?  Even SD
is 1 gig per hour of watching?  I could get one movie and then not check my
email that month, not download any podcasts etc etc.  Or I could get part
one of The Fellowship of the Ring and then watch the second half of
Fellowship the following month.

Netflix has offered an alternative to those with good internet connections
to renting SD movies.  To see netflix as an alternative to BR is not seeing
reality.  Perhaps in a few years when connections get faster it will be the
case, but for now, for those who enjoy movies the answer is a good HD
monitor and a BR box.



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 BR is yesterday's answer. Look at what NetFlix is doing to see what
 replaced it.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:47 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
  he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
  a necessary item in any serious entertainment system.  Also he was
 talking
  about licensing two years ago, BR has taken off, there is no other option
 on
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread TJPA
I am of course assuming you have proper broadband service. RinkeyDink 
Comminications Corp is not going to provide state of the art service. The 
future is not going to halt just because you can't find a good service provider.

Sent from my iPad

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 You live in a dream world.  I broke my foot in October and spent the month
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread mike
Well my rinkey dink service is servicing more households than the future
service you speak of.  You know very well the ranking of the US for
broadband penetration, so the only reason you have having this argument is
to hold up Apple as some kind of visionary who sees BR going away.  All
Apple did was miss the boat.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 I am of course assuming you have proper broadband service. RinkeyDink
 Comminications Corp is not going to provide state of the art service. The
 future is not going to halt just because you can't find a good service
 provider.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  You live in a dream world.  I broke my foot in October and spent the
 month
  of November watching Hulu on my tv, Qwest turned off my internet
 connection
  shortly after.  I called and was informed my usage was too high and this
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Eh, if you want a Blu-ray buy a blu-ray.  They are getting down to a
reasonable price and many do the streaming services.  I haven't had my I
need BR event yet- a cheap player and Star Wars is what got me to finally
buy a DVD and might work for BR.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well my rinkey dink service is servicing more households than the future
 service you speak of.  You know very well the ranking of the US for
 broadband penetration, so the only reason you have having this argument is
 to hold up Apple as some kind of visionary who sees BR going away.  All
 Apple did was miss the boat.

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

  I am of course assuming you have proper broadband service. RinkeyDink
  Comminications Corp is not going to provide state of the art service. The
  future is not going to halt just because you can't find a good service
  provider.
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   You live in a dream world.  I broke my foot in October and spent the
  month
   of November watching Hulu on my tv, Qwest turned off my internet
  connection
   shortly after.  I called and was informed my usage was too high and
 this
  was
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread mike
Well I will, my point was, that mac mini would sell better, as would the
apple tv if it did HD for media centers.  The ease and beauty of OS X is
perfect for an entertainment center...although itunes is a bit stiff in the
media playing department.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:

 Eh, if you want a Blu-ray buy a blu-ray.  They are getting down to a
 reasonable price and many do the streaming services.  I haven't had my I
 need BR event yet- a cheap player and Star Wars is what got me to finally
 buy a DVD and might work for BR.

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well my rinkey dink service is servicing more households than the future
  service you speak of.  You know very well the ranking of the US for
  broadband penetration, so the only reason you have having this argument
 is
  to hold up Apple as some kind of visionary who sees BR going away.  All
  Apple did was miss the boat.
 
  On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 
   I am of course assuming you have proper broadband service. RinkeyDink
   Comminications Corp is not going to provide state of the art service.
 The
   future is not going to halt just because you can't find a good service
   provider.
  
   Sent from my iPad
  
   On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
  
You live in a dream world.  I broke my foot in October and spent the
   month
of November watching Hulu on my tv, Qwest turned off my internet
   connection
shortly after.  I called and was informed my usage was too high and
  this
   was
their way of warning me to lower it.
  
  
  
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread TJPA
The only people I know who can't manage a decent broadband connection are on 
his list. And the DC area is not all that advanced. To get g4 I would have to 
go to Baltimore. Enough of the country has sufficiently advanced connectivity 
that I think the future is not in peril. 

Sent from my iPad
 
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 Well my rinkey dink service is servicing more households than the future
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread Stewart Marshall

What you fail to realize is that you live in a unique area.

From DC north to NYC and the environs have the highest density of 
population on the east coast and the companies that serve that area 
put a large share of their resources in that area to ensure good 
above average Internet connectivity.


If you live on the west coast of CA between SF and SD you again have 
a high density of population and get great Internet service.


It is the area in between that has the problems.  It is spotty to say 
the least.


By the end of the year we should have some good competition in the 
cable network here in town.  A new company is rolling out service and 
putting up the infrastructure right now.  My service provider is 
worried.  It is offering great deals on service, but I must sign up 
for a long term contract.


I will wait.

Stewart





At 06:15 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
The only people I know who can't manage a decent broadband 
connection are on his list. And the DC area is not all that 
advanced. To get g4 I would have to go to Baltimore. Enough of the 
country has sufficiently advanced connectivity that I think the 
future is not in peril.


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 1:23 AM -0400 6/16/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:


  Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
anyway.


Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an 
HDMI-to-DVI cable for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort 
cable, but an HDMI cable.

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread mike
Be a lot more useful if the thing had a bluray player, 700 bux is outrageous
for that hardware spec.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Roger D. Parish rogerd.par...@gmail.comwrote:

 At 1:23 AM -0400 6/16/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

   Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
 Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
 real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
 anyway.


 Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an HDMI-to-DVI
 cable for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort cable, but an HDMI
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread mike
Yeah, I know...it *is* very nice, I don't fault Apple at all for hardware
design.  But they sure make you pay for it.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Hey but you are getting a Mac.

 Stewart



 At 10:51 AM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

 Be a lot more useful if the thing had a bluray player, 700 bux is
 outrageous
 for that hardware spec.

 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Roger D. Parish rogerd.par...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  At 1:23 AM -0400 6/16/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
  Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
  real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
  anyway.
 
 
  Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an HDMI-to-DVI
  cable for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort cable, but an
 HDMI
  cable.
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread Stewart Marshall

Apple has always made a nice profit on their hardware.

Apple above all else has always been about hardware.

The Iphone, Ipad, Touch etc. is all about hardware.

They have made a good OS to go along with their hardware but make 
their profit from hardware sales.


Stewart


At 11:01 AM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

Yeah, I know...it *is* very nice, I don't fault Apple at all for hardware
design.  But they sure make you pay for it.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Hey but you are getting a Mac.

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread TJPA
Maybe they have learned lessons by watching M$? Spread yourself out too thin 
and fail at everything.

Sent from my magical iPad

On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:23 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

  I wonder why there was nary a word at the WWDC about the new Mini?


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread TJPA
Also an SD card slot.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2010, at 6:26 AM, Roger D. Parish rogerd.par...@gmail.com wrote:

 Along those lines, I note that supplied with the Mini is an HDMI-to-DVI cable 
 for connecting a monitor. Not a mini-DisplayPort cable, but an HDMI cable


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread TJPA
Exactly. Mike can keep his Happy Panda brand junk box.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Apple does it again. I really love the small-format Mac Mini despite several 
 faults. The new version is even smaller, even more gorgeous, and eliminates 
 all of its top faults. Wow! I don't need to replace my current Mini, but I 
 sure want to.

  I wonder why there was nary a word at the WWDC about the new Mini?
Mr. Jobs used to talk it up in past years.  Considering the somewhat
radical departure from prior Mini designs, it almost seems like Apple
has slighted this product when there was actually good reason for
promoting it as you have pointed out.  As far as I know, Apple's only
information to the general public about this Mini was in the form of a
small press release.  Plus, I think that Apple plans to push the new
Mini more as a vehicle for entertainment purposes than as a device for
real work, which seems to me to generally be their new direction
anyway.

  Steve


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