Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. We've had connection issues with our DSL service for over two months. It disconnects at the same time almost every day for 5-90 minutes. Verizon is working on it. When the tech came to check wiring, switch, etc., he told me that the trunk line from town is fiber even though the neighborhood isn't connected, so we can't get FIOS. He told me that it's the same where he lives--fiber to the area, but neighborhoods not connected. He has DSL and DirecTV, just like we do. Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it. This is where a skillful lawyer/politician makes Verizon build out FIOS in that area or get the hell out of the way. If they want to prevent a build out because they are going to do it in a year or so is the only way they can get standing in a court. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Nice to know all that money these guys got in tax breaks and incentives went...nowhere. Makes me that much happier when I hear various senators proclaim 'we have plenty of competition' in regards to the desired tmobile/ATT merger. Yeah. Right. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/**shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-** Home-LTE-Service-116721?**nocomment=1http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. * ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Mike, It's worth noting that the new FCC net neutrality rules apply to wired connections (like FiOS) but not wireless connections (like LTE). --Emil On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 17:39, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- Emil Volcheck volch...@acm.org http://EmilVolcheck.com/ *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***