Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the sound card is an i810 with different PCI numbers so is supported natively in later kernels well with different pci ressources, hance the oops in mdk9.0 :-( I could live with that and so could 95% of my customers. it seems that some nforce mb use

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Buchan Milne
Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 03:40:41PM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: If we want nVidia to take us seriously we really need to not berate them unreasonably. Now if someone at Mandrakesoft has already asked and they said no, I have to wonder why there isn't a movement to just simply

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:10:10 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: less effort to get a fully-working NVidia card than a fully-working Radeon card under Mandrake, and ATI now also ships binary-only drivers for the new Radeons. Any drivers for the radeon=8500 other than the binary from

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Buchan Milne
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:10:10 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: less effort to get a fully-working NVidia card than a fully-working Radeon card under Mandrake, and ATI now also ships binary-only drivers for the new Radeons. Any drivers for the

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:45:06 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that there isn't really much choice now, to get good all the features on reasonable cards, you need binary-only drivers, whether from NVidia or ATI The problem at ATI is they have released bi drivers Only

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 10 February 2003 11:07 pm, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003, 09:00:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Narfi Stefansson: Götz:There must be something missing in your statement, such as you can only get accelerated AGP with the closed nvidia graphics drivers or something of that nature.

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:25 am, Ben Reser wrote: I have to wonder why there isn't a movement to just simply not buy nVidia hardware. Because the competing (SiS, here in Oz at least) hardware sucks. Sad but true. Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 01:31, Leon Brooks wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:25 am, Ben Reser wrote: I have to wonder why there isn't a movement to just simply not buy nVidia hardware. Because the competing (SiS, here in Oz at least) hardware sucks. Sad but true. VIA? -- adamw

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread tarvid
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:54 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 01:31, Leon Brooks wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:25 am, Ben Reser wrote: I have to wonder why there isn't a movement to just simply not buy nVidia hardware. Because the competing (SiS, here in

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:54 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 01:31, Leon Brooks wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:25 am, Ben Reser wrote: I have to wonder why there isn't a movement to just simply not buy nVidia hardware. Because the competing (SiS, here in Oz at

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Note that apart license issues, since the removing of netscape 4.7X, we no longer includes in main distrib packages for which there aren't sources. NVidia doesn't include them, since even their multi-distrib .src.rpm includes binary only files and libraries and were even compiled with old egcs

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 10 February 2003 05:06 pm, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Maybe NVidia, now that they lost the crown of faster 3D card even on newer GeForce FX against ATI, can think to release freely their drivers freely (which I doubt) trying to conquer other markets, like those of Linux 3D workstations.

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Buchan Milne
Leon Brooks wrote: On Monday 10 February 2003 05:06 pm, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Maybe NVidia, now that they lost the crown of faster 3D card even on newer GeForce FX against ATI, can think to release freely their drivers freely (which I doubt) trying to conquer other markets, like those of Linux

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 09:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: You are using hardware that is not supported sufficiently by the vendor to provide open-source drivers, and thus Mandrake Linux cannot fully support this hardware in the download edition.

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Buchan Milne
Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 09:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: You are using hardware that is not supported sufficiently by the vendor to provide open-source drivers, and thus Mandrake Linux cannot fully support this hardware in the

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread D F
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 10, 2003 09:10, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 10 February 2003 09:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: You are using hardware that is not supported sufficiently by the vendor to provide open-source drivers, and thus Mandrake Linux cannot fully

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Leon Brooks wrote: It's a nice thought (and it won't hurt to ask, so I will do that now), but in the absence of OSS drivers for NVidia, we could rewrite their nforce LAN card driver and get by with referring to a page at Mandrake that explains how to deal with NVidia cards. why not taking

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003, 15:24:57 Uhr MET, schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: why not taking another NON-NVidia card with supported drivers? If for the video driver thay probably says that OpenGL drivers contains code from SGI which can't be redistributed, they have no excuse for not releasing full

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Austin Acton
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 09:37, Buchan Milne wrote: Ideally this would be true for my Lucent Technologies Winmodem (it's quite high on the MandrakeClub voting list). Draks already tells me that my Vortex soundcard has no OSS driver and consequently no OSS driver (there's a play on words in there)

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Narfi Stefansson
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:50, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003, 15:24:57 Uhr MET, schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: why not taking another NON-NVidia card with supported drivers? If for the video driver thay probably says that OpenGL drivers contains code from SGI which can't be

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003, 09:00:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Narfi Stefansson: On Monday 10 February 2003 08:50, Götz Waschk wrote: The nforce2 would be a really nice chipset for a linux desktop, but you cannot use non-NVidia graphic boards with this chipset, as the AGP part isn't supported

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Ben Reser
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: Some of your hardware (insert specific's) is from a vendor that prevents us from providing full support in the GPL download edition of the Mandrake Linux Distribution. They have chosen to release their drivers under a proprietary

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Buchan Milne
Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: Some of your hardware (insert specific's) is from a vendor that prevents us from providing full support in the GPL download edition of the Mandrake Linux Distribution. They have chosen to release their drivers under

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 01:36 pm, Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: Some of your hardware (insert specific's) is from a vendor that prevents us from providing full support in the GPL download edition

Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-10 Thread Ben Reser
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 03:40:41PM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: It is not a violation of the GPL, it is a violation of nVidia's license, which would allow distribution only with permission. MandrakeSoft can get permission for the boxed sets, because those are not redistributable. They can also

[Cooker] Re: nvidia woes (possibly cured)

2003-02-08 Thread David Walser
Just a note that Mandrake's NVidia module packages that I mentioned in the other message are also obtainable from the MandrakeClub. Leon Brooks wrote: On Sunday 09 February 2003 05:30 am, Preston Cody wrote: My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia drivers from their