Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-19 Thread Tim Fenn
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:37:07 -0800 "William G. Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Tim Fenn wrote: > > > The reason I bring up the guile dependencies in particular is > > they're the only tricky part in getting rpms made, since without an > > upstream, they're unli

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-18 Thread William G. Scott
On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Tim Fenn wrote: The reason I bring up the guile dependencies in particular is they're the only tricky part in getting rpms made, since without an upstream, they're unlikely to get accepted. Otherwise I'd be happy to contribute those as well to fedora. Create a

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-18 Thread Tim Fenn
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:16:01 + Paul Emsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > guile net-http and guile-gui look unsupported...)? > > Yes, they are tiny packages that could easily subsumed into Coot > itself for ease of packaging (as Bill Scott once suggested). Not > done, no-one complained en

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-17 Thread William G. Scott
Oh, in case anyone is wondering how I did this (and how I screwed it up), the correct command should have been: dpkg -S $( ldd /usr/local/xtal/coot/bin/coot-real | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u | grep -v \( )| cut -f 1 -d ":" | sort -u | perl -pi -e 's| \n|\, |g' >| dependencies.txt whereas

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-17 Thread William G. Scott
Woops. I didn't see that. I auto-generated the list of dependencies from the output of ldd on the coot binary, upon which I then used dpgk -S to find the corresponding packages. For some reason it generated this falsely (the library is also present, but ldd does not report coot linking an

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Brooks
Hi, I just tested it on a freshly installed system for a student; it works very well on Ubuntu Hardy. I'm not sure why "nxnode" is a dependency of the Coot .deb though! (Although that doesn't bother me too much- I would advise anyone to use NX ). Thanks again, Mark 2008/11/16 William G. Scott

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-16 Thread Mark Brooks
Astounding! Thanks to all involved. Mark 2008/11/16 William G. Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That's great. In the short term, highly > unofficial/unauthorized/zeroth-order coot and dependencies for i386 linux: > > debians: > > < > http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Coot#

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-16 Thread William G. Scott
That's great. In the short term, highly unofficial/unauthorized/ zeroth-order coot and dependencies for i386 linux: debians: rpms (made via alien from above):

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:16 Sun 16 Nov , Paul Emsley wrote: >> It was rhetorical - why not just use autoconf to do all the dirty >> work? > > Like Lynn Ten Eyck says, autoconf configures dependences, it doesn't > build them (AFAICS, anyway). Well, autoconf does have a command to kick off another configure scri

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-15 Thread Paul Emsley
It was rhetorical - why not just use autoconf to do all the dirty work? Like Lynn Ten Eyck says, autoconf configures dependences, it doesn't build them (AFAICS, anyway). Also, is the idea to migrate all of the scripting away from guile and towards python, No. or update the guile depende

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-15 Thread Paul Emsley
FYI, IIUC, Morten Kjeldgaard has become a MOTU and is working on crystallographic libs for Ubuntu, e.g.: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clipper https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mmdb When he gets round to Coot I'm keen to help make his life easier. Regards, Paul. Mark Brooks wrote:

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-15 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Mark et al: The last coot I compiled on Ubuntu Hardy was coot-0.5-pre-1- revision-1003. I've been a bit distracted with other obligations. The last one I made into a debian package and put on our server was a 0.4-pre-2release, so I apologize. I keep the OS X fink debian packages

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-15 Thread Mark Brooks
Hi, It may be useful to have a 'contrib' section for the Coot binary download web page (or even some unofficial web page), so that we have more options of binaries to test. For example, upon upgrading to Ubuntu Hardy Heron, Coot stopped working, for reasons beyond my understanding, but worked when

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-14 Thread Lynn F. Ten Eyck
Having tried various forms of building Coot, and looked at several Linux and OS X system variants, I can assure you that an autoconf build would fail most of the time due to missing dependencies. Coot not only uses a lot of packages, it needs specific versions of many of these packages. T

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-14 Thread Tim Fenn
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:58:20 + Kevin Cowtan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Fenn wrote: > > Why does coot require a 3000 line hand written shell script to set > > up the build process? > > Well, if you look at the script (which I guess you have), then I > think you already have the answer...

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-13 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Tim Fenn wrote: Why does coot require a 3000 line hand written shell script to set up the build process? Well, if you look at the script (which I guess you have), then I think you already have the answer... which suggests to me that I have misunderstood the question. Maybe the question you ar

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-12 Thread William G. Scott
Since Ubuntu has gotten to be popular (for good reason, IMO), it might be useful to have an official (or at least semi-official) debian package whose installation would guarantee all the dependencies also get installed. I've tried to do it in a half-arsed sort of way, but lately have dropped the b

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Fenn
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:03:34 + Kevin Cowtan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Secondly, if for some reason you do want to build your own (you want > to make changes to the code???), then are you using the > build-it-gtk2-simple script? > http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.p

Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-12 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Hi! Firstly, do you need to build coot at all? There are binary packages which work just fine on Gutsy. You can install them wherever you want on your system, and they should just work. Secondly, if for some reason you do want to build your own (you want to make changes to the code???), then

[COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-11 Thread Rimi
Hi all, I am new to coot. Recently I tried to install coot in my ubuntu gutsy. But it can not find mmdb library somehow. Below is the message checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking fo